cb1000rider wrote:Cedar Park, not Austin. Williamson County. Trust me, there is a big difference.
I may head up today ask the LEOs what they think.
I guess I just saw Austin and didn't make the distinction, either way it's a violation to expose your CHL.
cb1000rider wrote:Well, I went up there running hidden video out of my pocket, fully expecting to have my 2nd amendment rights handed to me.
Note, I didn't carry.. I was with my wife and child and this weekend wasn't a good weekend for me to spend behind bars.
Bought my "tickets" and stopped by the PD counter, which was manned by Cedar Park PD.
I told them that I needed "clarification" as my CHL instructor had told me that we could ignore 30.06 signs on City owned property under certain conditions. I also mentioned that I wasn't armed and showed them my wasteband.
There were 3 LEOs at the table.
I spoke to one of them. That officer was fairly decked out for the occasion - full vest, lots of ammo. He told me that that at prior events they had had "trouble", but that "technically" they were unable to bar CHL holders from entering carrying concealed weapons. He said that was was unwilling to make an "unlawful arrest" but he wasn't sure that the officer behind him felt that way. It was a joking tone. Basically he said it was a "house rule" and they'd be unwilling to break the law to make an arrest.
So in my book, it's "good guy" Cedar Park PD.
We really need some sort of rule that enforced non-posting of 30.06 where prohibited, otherwise we run into conditions where law enforcement and CHL holders aren't entirely clear. Cedar Park was obviously well versed on the subject.
Note, I spoke to 3 other CHL holders at the event. All of them indicated that it was "illegal" to carry to that event. So the 30.06 sign is doing it's job per event owner.
I do understand why we might not want people unconcealing and de-racking rounds through firearms. In fact, I'm not entirely clear on how you can legally carry a handgun there at all - loaded or unloaded.
Thank goodness your PD is better educated than my locals. I was met with arrogant ignorance at the last gun show I attended. I didn't make an issue of it and since I'd already bought my ticket I just got stamped and returned to my truck to leave my weapon. When I returned I got stopped again and was questioned. I told the officer I don't have to answer any of her questions legally entering the show, but my daughter who was attending with me was looking uncomfortable so I informed the PO I had no weapons. She looked like she was going to push back (maybe try to search me), but just waved me on by. She told me the city and the PD can do anything they want to.
That was the one time in my life I really felt like telling an LEO they were an idiot. I wish I had a video.
I was really hoping the bill allowing complaints on government postings of 30.06 would pass last session. Maybe next session.