Purplehood wrote:I think the whole situation is totally outrageous.
- No prior notice was given.
- CHL holders would be "out'ed" in front of friends and neighbors
- Was this procedure previously approved at the board or HOA meeting?
In any event, the outting of CHL holders is reprehensible.
Call me annoyed. [not to be confused with any other posters "annoyed" handle on this forum]
YAAAAAARRRRRR.
I agree. As far as I am concerned: 1) the officer in question did not ask the OP for his ID, so he wasn't even in a gray area if he chose to keep quiet and carry; 2) ever since 09/01/09, there is no penalty for failing to divulge your CHL to an officer who asks to see your ID; 3) there was no 30.06 posting; 4) the OP was not under arrest, and therefore his gun and license were not being seized; and 5) the meeting is not covered under PC 46.03.
The only possible claim the officer can make is under GC 411.207. AUTHORITY OF PEACE OFFER TO DISARM. But, for that to happen, he has to know that you are armed; and for that to happen, he has to ask you (not a crowd) if you are carrying.
I would have either ignored him or left. And I sure as hades would have fired off a letter to the officer in question, with a CC to his superiors, calling his wisdom into question by asking CHL holders to out themselves, when the DPS and the state law specifically encourage us not to. Further, I would ask for a written letter of apology, just to make the point to this officer that, just like the criminals he arrests will face consequences for their bad behavior, he must face consequences for his own, because he is held to a higher standard.
"Every Citizen Shall Have The Right To Keep And Bear Arms In The Lawful Defense Of Himself Or The State"
YabuUS wrote:So I've decided to attend - not carrying my weapon - and see what happens.
I'd have been real tempted to stock up and be carrying at least 6-10 handguns, just to see the look on their faces if they wanted me to disarm.
Two shoulder holsters
Two IWB
Two OWB
Two ankle
Two cross-draw
One COB
One belleyband
Four pocket (6-7 if you're wearing a coat)
I count 16 to 19 pistols. I would *love* to see the look on a LEO's face if he asked you to disarm during a traffic stop... :)
That reminds me of a comedy skit on Sat. Night Live a few years ago where to cops, one male and one female, were stripping down for a night of love. The camera pans down to the floor and all you see and hear is guns, knives, handcuffs, ammo pouches, knuckles, one sword, a couple more pistols and one whip hitting the floor. Looked like 30 or 40lbs of weaponry on the floor before they got thru. Cracked me up.
And Clint Eastwood & Rene Russo in "In the Line of Fire".
Great movie!
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YabuUS wrote:
She said as far as the apartments was concerned my having a CHL and carrying a weapon was strictly a private matter and nobody's business but mine. p:
Thats a pretty smart lady.
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I'm fairly positive I'd have to sit and be quiet at a request like that in a manner like that. I'd feel weird about it but I would feel I'm w/in my rights as no prior notice was given. It's more of a request of the officers than a notice to licensed gun holders. I would, out of respect though, try and contact one of the superiors afterwards and question / comment on the situation.
