One in the chamber or not?

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Re: One in the chamber or not?

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The_Busy_Mom wrote:
jbarn wrote:I am not trying to chastise you...... but I am just going to disagree. :tiphat:
The_Busy_Mom wrote:We will have to agree to disagree.

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jbarn wrote:Unless one instructs others in that method, or calls it a viable carry method for students. Then it is not "each to their own". We have an enormous responsibility as instructors. Carrying in such a dangerous manner is irresponsible, IMO.
I answered the OP, which was whether or not you should carry one in the chamber. You came back and showed that, while you were not trying to chastise, you would disagree with my method of carry. I ended with that fact that we would agree to disagree. Yet you continue to harp. For someone who is not trying to chastise another, you sure aren't doing a very good job. I am trying to stay on topic of the thread. So let me go ahead and change my post so that you will feel better, and you can stop chastising me for my choice.
The_Busy_Mom wrote:I am a girl.
I carry a Sig 2022 in 9mm.
I carry with 15 in the mag and 1 in the chamber. Hornady hollow points.
I am cocked an locked, hammer DOWN.
My safety is to keep your booger hooker off the bang button.
I am well trained.
I am prepared.
That is all.

:txflag: TBM
This should remain on topic to one in the chamber or not. Start your own thread if you want someone to debate carry choice with you; however, it will not be me. I am no good at debate.

:txflag: TBM

I am still not trying to chastise you, but to educate you. If after all of this you still don't see that carry in condition zero is unsafe and irresponsible, especially for an instructor, well...... good luck to you. As an instructor, I think we should be open to learning as well.

I was actually taken to task by a well known instructor a few years ago on the range. I didn't get defensive or try to justify my position. I listened and carefully considered his point. Especially considering he was not alone in his opinion. I changed my opinion that day.

Have a good evening, busy mom. :thumbs2:
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Re: One in the chamber or not?

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jbarn wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote: But the SP2022 has no grip safety, and it has a 4.4 lb SA pull with the hammer fully cocked and ready to go. It has a decocker, but no safety which locks the hammer. That means that it was designed to be carried decocked. Carrying it cocked, and not locked, runs against both the manufacturer's recommendations and the buns design parameters. That just seems like a recipe for disaster to me. But to each his or her own, I suppose.
Unless one instructs others in that method, or calls it a viable carry method for students. Then it is not "each to their own". We have an enormous responsibility as instructors. Carrying in such a dangerous manner is irresponsible, IMO.

I agree with everything you wrote.
I agree, and while I am not a CHL instructor, I AM an NRA Certified Basic Pistol Instructor, and I would never tell my students "to each his/her own" either. I was saying "to each his/her own" to The_Busy_Mom. But my guess is that the NRA would not be happy with teaching people that, if she were doing it in the context of an NRA Basic Handgun Safety class. In any case, I think we've worn out the discussion.
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Re: One in the chamber or not?

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The Annoyed Man wrote:In any case, I think we've worn out the discussion.
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