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Re: I let my LTC expire

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:16 pm
by OneGun
I have one additional reason for keeping my LTC. I have family in Chi-Raq Ill-Annoy that I have to travel to see. I need my TX LTC to keep my ILL CCL. This may not be a common problem amongst our group, but this is my situation.

Re: I let my LTC expire

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:26 pm
by Rafe
OneGun wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:16 pm I have one additional reason for keeping my LTC. I have family in Chi-Raq Ill-Annoy that I have to travel to see. I need my TX LTC to keep my ILL CCL. This may not be a common problem amongst our group, but this is my situation.
Chicago, huh? There's a 72-hour flash sale going on for a decent little minimalist plate carrier from 5.11. Just sayin'...

Re: I let my LTC expire

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:44 am
by Jose_in_Dallas
For me, keeping my LTC is a no brainer. I haven't travelled as much the past couple of years but I've always enjoyed having the reciprocity with other states I visit. Also being born overseas, before my LTC, background checks always took longer for me. I don't buy or transfer guns all to often but just another bonus not having to worry about the wait. And third, I've been taking a few training classes the past few years and an LTC is usually asked/required. The reasoning being is that it proves you have no criminal background and you are not a "bad guy". I guess I understand the reasoning for this but I've never heard of an issue with a "bad guy" attending a firearms training class.

Re: I let my LTC expire

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:25 am
by Charles L. Cotton
With "Constitutional Carry," getting or renewing your LTC is not asking permission to carry a handgun. Doing so is simply exercising an option that renders significant legal benefits.

Chas.

Re: I let my LTC expire

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:54 am
by Tex1961
Charles L. Cotton wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:25 am With "Constitutional Carry," getting or renewing your LTC is not asking permission to carry a handgun. Doing so is simply exercising an option that renders significant legal benefits.

Chas.
Best post on this so far. Well said sir.....

I'm actually surprised at the number of LTC students in class that don't know or vaguely aware that Texas passed CC. However even the ones that do know still want their license mostly for legitimacy, or in their minds anyway. Once I explain the many benefits of having their license it really solidifies their mind that they are making the right choice....

Re: I let my LTC expire

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:40 am
by AndyC1911
I'm keeping mine but I'm delighted to have the choice.

Re: I let my LTC expire

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:35 pm
by LucasMcCain
Sorry if this has been beaten to death already, and please direct me to that thread if it has, but...

It was my understanding that while carrying under constitutional carry, a simple gunbuster sign or "no weapons" on a code of conduct sign would be considered sufficient notice to prohibit carrying on premises so posted. I don't think they outlined specific signage requirements for prohibiting constitution carry. I may certainly be wrong about that, though, as I am planning to keep my LTC for reasons already enumerated in this thread, and have therefore not read up all that much on the specifics of constitutional carry.

Assuming I am correct in my above understanding, that would be a major reason for retaining my LTC. Tons of places around here have gunbuster signs but no 30.06/30.07.

Again, please set me straight if I misunderstood something.

Re: I let my LTC expire

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:27 pm
by jmorris
LucasMcCain wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:35 pm Sorry if this has been beaten to death already, and please direct me to that thread if it has, but...

It was my understanding that while carrying under constitutional carry, a simple gunbuster sign or "no weapons" on a code of conduct sign would be considered sufficient notice to prohibit carrying on premises so posted. I don't think they outlined specific signage requirements for prohibiting constitution carry. I may certainly be wrong about that, though, as I am planning to keep my LTC for reasons already enumerated in this thread, and have therefore not read up all that much on the specifics of constitutional carry.

Assuming I am correct in my above understanding, that would be a major reason for retaining my LTC. Tons of places around here have gunbuster signs but no 30.06/30.07.

Again, please set me straight if I misunderstood something.
Look here. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=101192&start=15

Re: I let my LTC expire

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:39 pm
by carlson1
Charles L. Cotton wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:25 am With "Constitutional Carry," getting or renewing your LTC is not asking permission to carry a handgun. Doing so is simply exercising an option that renders significant legal benefits.

Chas.
This is the perfect reason behind me keeping mine and think others would do well by meditating on just this thought before making rash decisions.

Carl

Re: I let my LTC expire

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:41 pm
by ScottDLS
For $40 (or $25 in my case), I just see no reason not to renew.

Re: I let my LTC expire

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:20 am
by Liberty
Tex1961 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:46 am
:iagree:
1. Reciprocity
2. Faster firearm purchases
3. Passing 30.05 signs. Which I think more and more will go up.

I get the whole 2a thing as well, but them’s the law whether or not you like it. And until it changes why limit yourself. Something that I’ve had multiple discussions about with students, especially young black men is perception. Getting pulled over with a firearm and pulling out your LTC vs not having one can really make a difference in LEO interactions. Especially for them. You can put whatever spin you want on that one, but I’m just trying to be a realist. I also think in a SD situation having your LTC is always going to be more favorably viewed by a grand jury.
Reciprocity is a big one with me. Regards to LEO interactions: When getting polled over I found it less awkward to hand over my LTC along with my driver's license. Rather than a solo responce of, "Yes sir I am armed with a handgun" The LTC has been typically been viewed as a positive thing. Making the process go more comfortably. I am a Veteran over 65 and find the online renewal process, inexpensive and easy.

Re: I let my LTC expire

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:38 am
by allisji
ScottDLS wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:41 pm For $40 (or $25 in my case), I just see no reason not to renew.
I agree. I renewed mine in 2020. It was much more simple and quick than I had imagined it would be. Basically just paid the $40 and submitted the renewal and it was done in a couple weeks.

I didn't have to do anything other than apply for renewal and pay the fee.

The only problem that I have is that because I was not allowed in 2020 to visit the driver's license office to renew my TX DL they reused my old photo for my LTC. Now my LTC looks like a 22 year old kid and after I renewed my driver's license a year ago my driver's license looks like 37 year old me. Quite literally looks like two different individuals thanks to Gov. Abbott closing down state offices in 2020 and blanket extending people's drivers' licenses passed their expiration date. Oh well

Re: I let my LTC expire

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:06 pm
by Tex1961
allisji wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:38 am
ScottDLS wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:41 pm For $40 (or $25 in my case), I just see no reason not to renew.
I agree. I renewed mine in 2020. It was much more simple and quick than I had imagined it would be. Basically just paid the $40 and submitted the renewal and it was done in a couple weeks.

I didn't have to do anything other than apply for renewal and pay the fee.

The only problem that I have is that because I was not allowed in 2020 to visit the driver's license office to renew my TX DL they reused my old photo for my LTC. Now my LTC looks like a 22 year old kid and after I renewed my driver's license a year ago my driver's license looks like 37 year old me. Quite literally looks like two different individuals thanks to Gov. Abbott closing down state offices in 2020 and blanket extending people's drivers' licenses passed their expiration date. Oh well
Funny you should mention that. Both my drivers license and LTC were up for renewal this year. Unfortunately I got my LTC renewal with my old picture in before I could get to the drivers license office to get a new picture so now I’m like you I have two different pictures that are eight years apart. And trust me when you hit 60 years old there is a big difference in how you look. The good and bad news on the drivers license as I don’t have to go back to the drivers license office for another 16 years. Of course I’ll be 76 if I make it. This may be my very last time I ever had to go to the DMV.