Deputy Scot Peterson

[WTR]

https://www.snopes.com/trump-stops-mugging-1991/ By the way I voted for Trump. I am just tired of the tweats, boasting and patting himself on the back.....Not the way I was raised.

Funny you are using Snopes to counter a news article that was posted almost 30 years ago. Have you researched who owns and runs Snopes?

Have you researched other claims that Trump has made that are false? I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

[Oldgringo]

https://www.snopes.com/trump-stops-mugging-1991/ By the way I voted for Trump. I am just tired of the tweats, boasting and patting himself on the back.....Not the way I was raised.

Funny you are using Snopes to counter a news article that was posted almost 30 years ago. Have you researched who owns and runs Snopes?

The issue is, the one guy that was hired to protect the kids from exactly what happened did nothing and there are 17 people dead. You are criticizing Trump for saying he'd like to think he would have gone in and then you state you would have. Oh, the irony. Have you been in a situation when you ran to the sound of gunshots to assist others? If not, your statement is no more credible than his.

I've noticed that Snopes seems to verify what they want verified?

[mojo84]

https://www.snopes.com/trump-stops-mugging-1991/ By the way I voted for Trump. I am just tired of the tweats, boasting and patting himself on the back.....Not the way I was raised.

Funny you are using Snopes to counter a news article that was posted almost 30 years ago. Have you researched who owns and runs Snopes?

The issue is, the one guy that was hired to protect the kids from exactly what happened did nothing and there are 17 people dead. You are criticizing Trump for saying he'd like to think he would have gone in and then you state you would have. Oh, the irony. Have you been in a situation when you ran to the sound of gunshots to assist others? If not, your statement is no more credible than his.

I've noticed that Snopes seems to verify what they want verified?

Exactly

[bblhd672]

https://www.snopes.com/trump-stops-mugging-1991/ By the way I voted for Trump. I am just tired of the tweats, boasting and patting himself on the back.....Not the way I was raised.

Funny you are using Snopes to counter a news article that was posted almost 30 years ago. Have you researched who owns and runs Snopes?

The issue is, the one guy that was hired to protect the kids from exactly what happened did nothing and there are 17 people dead. You are criticizing Trump for saying he'd like to think he would have gone in and then you state you would have. Oh, the irony. Have you been in a situation when you ran to the sound of gunshots to assist others? If not, your statement is no more credible than his.

I've noticed that Snopes seems to verify what they want verified?

Exactly

Snopes is run by progressive socialists. It's as credible a source as CNN or MSNBC.

[ninjabread]

He volunteered for the job.
He enjoyed the benefits.
He took the paycheck.

He failed the victims.

[Redneck_Buddha]

Had it been you OR me, what would you OR I have done? Just wonderin'.....

That question is only valid if you are asking forumites who are LEOs.

I knew someone would pop up to defend this derelict coward.

If you're accusing me of defending him, you are wrong......among other things!

I wasn't referring to you and not sure what you mean by "among other things".

[Bitter Clinger]

He volunteered for the job.
He enjoyed the benefits.
He took the paycheck.

He failed the victims.

And presumably also swore an oath to "serve and protect"?

[Charles L. Cotton]

https://www.snopes.com/trump-stops-mugging-1991/ By the way I voted for Trump. I am just tired of the tweats, boasting and patting himself on the back.....Not the way I was raised.

Funny you are using Snopes to counter a news article that was posted almost 30 years ago. Have you researched who owns and runs Snopes?

The issue is, the one guy that was hired to protect the kids from exactly what happened did nothing and there are 17 people dead. You are criticizing Trump for saying he'd like to think he would have gone in and then you state you would have. Oh, the irony. Have you been in a situation when you ran to the sound of gunshots to assist others? If not, your statement is no more credible than his.

I've noticed that Snopes seems to verify what they want verified?

Exactly

Snopes is nothing more than the Oracle of Delphi of the Internet. One made crap and got paid and the other one is still doing it. Witnesses to the event said it happened. They were there, Snopes liars were not. This is an easy call.

Chas.

[WTR]

You would rather believe " fake news ". Which has been debunked and cast doubt on by multiple sources?

[OlBill]

Pawpaw and Textension are correct. This is not a pistol vs. rifle toe-to-toe fight. Nobody is expecting Peterson, or anyone else, to charge the Bolivia army with Butch and Sundance. I have never been remotely in this type of situation but I was a teacher for many years and thought of this situation many times. The officer only had to find the shooter, engage, upset his OODA, and neutralize the threat or at least buy time until the Calvary comes or the kids can get away. Move to the threat but do so in a way that you can be effective. Blinding rushing in may do nothing more than get yourself killed and now you have squandered away the opportunity to deter or neutralize the bad guy.

We are arguing the pistol vs. rifle yet we expect our teachers to turn away an attacker with books and staples, or a fire extinguisher if they are so lucky to have one in their room. No, not all teachers should be armed. Not all are cut out for it. Let the ones that are willing and able have the tools to protect their kids. The teacher's first responsibility is to take care of the students in their immediate care, not search and destroy. If the opportunity arises to engage outside the classroom or hold down the hallway then that is a bonus. Staff that is more mobile, principals, custodian's, office staff, may have more opportunity to S&D but even then it has to be carefully calculated.

I've been thinking about your reference to Boyd's Loop. Very interesting.

I would say that the shooter shattered everyone's loop with his first shot.

So what does it take to get it back?

How do you regroup and regain the initiative?

Of course I disagree about it not being a rifle vs. pistol fight.

[mojo84]

You would rather believe " fake news ". Which has been debunked and cast doubt on by multiple sources?

With friends like you, who needs.... Nevermind!

I trust snopes less than I do any other fake news.

[mojo84]

https://www.snopes.com/trump-stops-mugging-1991/ By the way I voted for Trump. I am just tired of the tweats, boasting and patting himself on the back.....Not the way I was raised.

Funny you are using Snopes to counter a news article that was posted almost 30 years ago. Have you researched who owns and runs Snopes?

The issue is, the one guy that was hired to protect the kids from exactly what happened did nothing and there are 17 people dead. You are criticizing Trump for saying he'd like to think he would have gone in and then you state you would have. Oh, the irony. Have you been in a situation when you ran to the sound of gunshots to assist others? If not, your statement is no more credible than his.

I've noticed that Snopes seems to verify what they want verified?

Exactly

Snopes is nothing more than the Oracle of Delphi of the Internet. One made crap and got paid and the other one is still doing it. Witnesses to the event said it happened. They were there, Snopes liars were not. This is an easy call.

Chas.

We are on the same page.

[Scott B.]

We need our own duck and cover drill in some of these threads lately.

Let's remember who the real enemy is - the press!

[WTR]

You would rather believe " fake news ". Which has been debunked and cast doubt on by multiple sources?

With friends like you, who needs.... Nevermind!

I trust snopes less than I do any other fake news.

You folks really don't like anyone playing devils advocate and challenging your comfy held thoughts. There is a very uncomfortable real world out there.

[mojo84]

You would rather believe " fake news ". Which has been debunked and cast doubt on by multiple sources?

With friends like you, who needs.... Nevermind!

I trust snopes less than I do any other fake news.

You folks really don't like anyone playing devils advocate and challenging your comfy held thoughts. There is a very uncomfortable real world out there.

In the real world out there, there are enough progressive anti-gun nuts taking shots at Trump and the 2nd Amendment without republicans, conservatives and libertarians taking cheap shots at them. There are things I don't like and agree with him on but challenging him on whether or not he would like to think he would do something is not one of them.