My previous post was an atempt at agreement while giving a little of the reasoning along with it, and at the risk of inspiring a little more sarcasim and/or criticism, I'll add a little more. The word"Locked" when used in the phrase "Cocked & Locked" definetly refers to the locking of a manual safty. When used in the phrase "Locked & Loaded" (or loaded & locked) it refers to the insertion of the projectile into the "firing mechanism" of the weapon, which has been called the weapon's "Lock" for centuries. The various types of locking mechanisms in early firearms include the matchlock, wheellock, snaplock, flintlock, & caplock.Right2Carry wrote: IMHO using Cocked and Locked while referring to an XD or Glock is just wrong.
Condition One 24/7 OK for my gun?
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S&W revolver is ever ready. The KISS principle has a lot going for it when the pressure is on. If the inherent weaknesses of your chosen firearm bothers you, it might be time to rethink the class of weapon you are using for personal defense. A quality revolver will give you as close to 100% reliability as is possible to get.
Good AdviceHamourkiller wrote:S&W revolver is ever ready. The KISS principle has a lot going for it when the pressure is on. If the inherent weaknesses of your chosen firearm bothers you, it might be time to rethink the class of weapon you are using for personal defense. A quality revolver will give you as close to 100% reliability as is possible to get.
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Prior to owning a Glock personally, I used to feel the same way about them, that's why I bought an XD instead. After spending a lot of range time with the Glock, I can say that your assessment (or uneducated opinion), about the engagement of the trigger on the Glock is dead wrong (that is not a slam so don't take it that way but most people myself included who had never spent a fair amount of time with a Glock feel they are unsafe). The Glock has a long trigger pull and the first 80% of the trigger pull is disengaging the safety and loading the striker spring. The last 20% is the actual part of the action that makes it go bang. Is it as safe as a cocked & locked 1911? No, but it is far from an unsafe gun.TheYoungGuy wrote:My point, as you obviously were too excited to pause and consider, was that the Glock firearm is, as I call it, unsafe. What I mean is that unlike a gun with a physical safety switch or even one like my XD, the Glock takes MUCH less effort to engage.
As for carrying your XD in condition 1, as long as you put it in a safe location when it's not on your person, it will be fine.
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Mike from Texas wrote:TheYoungGuy wrote: As for carrying your XD in condition 1, as long as you put it in a safe location when it's not on your person, it will be fine.
Condition One is terminology created for 1911 pistols. The application of that term to any other style handgun is confusing at least, and downright misleading at worst. Besides, hasn't Jeff Cooper be misquoted enough already?!
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I think condition 1 applies quite well to this situation. Please elaborate on your deviation from that view. I'm very interested in that as I'm studying jeff cooper's work right now.Photoman wrote:Mike from Texas wrote:TheYoungGuy wrote: As for carrying your XD in condition 1, as long as you put it in a safe location when it's not on your person, it will be fine.
Condition One is terminology created for 1911 pistols. The application of that term to any other style handgun is confusing at least, and downright misleading at worst. Besides, hasn't Jeff Cooper be misquoted enough already?!
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Till your fingers are oily, sweaty, bloody.....anything that will blur the print.LedJedi wrote:I would settle for voice print verification, but it would have it's drawbacks too. fingerprint readers on a gun would be ideal though i think.BrassMonkey wrote:I want my DNA encoded pistol...
You are being stabbed on the floor and your wifes prints arent on the database. No smart guns, no thanks.