Carrying At Home

[sjfcontrol]

I can only speak to one side of this issue as no one in my family drinks alcohol, but I'd honestly have to say I've never been to anyone's home where the homeowner open carried while they had visitors. Is this something you guys encounter often?

I've carried while we've had company, but not open. And not drinking.

[gljjt]

I don't care what the subject is: Anyone who has the temerity to "CALL ME OUT" in my own home would be immediately escorted to the door.

If a person's behavior is such that I needed to call them out, in a polite way, and they were offended, they wouldn't have to escort me to the door. Boorish / unsafe action is my cue to leave. I wouldn't want to be around them. Boorish / unsafe / crude / offensive behavior SHOULD be called out.

[Abraham]

gljjt,

Your lordliness is duly noted.

[Unicorn Rancher]

I don't care what the subject is: Anyone who has the temerity to "CALL ME OUT" in my own home would be immediately escorted to the door.

If a person's behavior is such that I needed to call them out, in a polite way, and they were offended, they wouldn't have to escort me to the door. Boorish / unsafe action is my cue to leave. I wouldn't want to be around them. Boorish / unsafe / crude / offensive behavior SHOULD be called out.

Well, bless your heart.

[Jumping Frog]

I can only speak to one side of this issue as no one in my family drinks alcohol, but I'd honestly have to say I've never been to anyone's home where the homeowner open carried while they had visitors. Is this something you guys encounter often?

I typically wear a white t-shirt and then a regular shirt on top of that at work, or going out, or going to church, etc. I always wear an undershirt.

When I get home, I'll often take of my "good shirt", and relax around the house in my white t-shirt. That also happens to open carry my handgun in my IWB. In fact, that is exactly what I am doing as I sit and type this.

If my kids have a friend stop in, they are going to see the dad walking around in a t-shirt and a gun. If has never been a big deal one way or the other.

[gljjt]

gljjt,

Your lordliness is duly noted.

So, if you were at a friends house and they made suggestive, inappropriate comments to your wife, you would let it slide? That's a serious question.

I in no way said YOU were boorish, I simply stated that their are occasions for intervention.

Your personal attack is not appreciated. I'll put you on the "foe" list so I won't see your response.

[gljjt]

I don't care what the subject is: Anyone who has the temerity to "CALL ME OUT" in my own home would be immediately escorted to the door.

If a person's behavior is such that I needed to call them out, in a polite way, and they were offended, they wouldn't have to escort me to the door. Boorish / unsafe action is my cue to leave. I wouldn't want to be around them. Boorish / unsafe / crude / offensive behavior SHOULD be called out.

Well, bless your heart.

Likewise, you wouldn't intervene in any circumstance?????

[Abraham]

RedRaiderCHL,

I don't carry at home, but pistols are never far away...

My bar is fully stocked.

Now, if I lived in a low quality neighborhood or there was a prison escape in my area or an outbreak of civil unrest was happening, I'd darn sure wear a pistol on my hip inside the house. Heck, maybe two...and if I wanted to have a drink, I would.

[tbrown]

If for whatever reason he would have to use his weapon after having a few, his ability to make sound and logical decision would come under scrutiny by the legal system whether it be in criminal or civil court depending on the circumstances surrounding the shooting.

I took the class recently and I don't remember a sobriety clause in the castle doctrine. Did I miss it?

If you did, I missed it too. I don't see anything like that in the civil immunity law either.

Seems like myth and superstition.

[RedRaiderCHL]

I think some are taking this a little out of context lol. this is my absolute best bud. when i say i called him out on it he didn't get irritated over something like that, and if the roles were reversed i wouldn't either. we just started discussing stuff and it provoked thought is all and i wanted to see what many of yall thought because many of you have been carrying longer than us.

And speaking of provoking thought the previous comment mentioned how there was not a sobriety clause in the castle doctrine and that is a valid argument i suppose but whats thought provoking for me is if something did happen like someone breaking down the door and the firearm was used how would the factor of sobriety play in? would it still be just as cut and dry as you being sober and shooting someone breaking into your home? or not?

[Jumping Frog]

i suppose but whats thought provoking for me is if something did happen like someone breaking down the door and the firearm was used how would the factor of sobriety play in? would it still be just as cut and dry as you being sober and shooting someone breaking into your home? or not?

This is not an easy yes/no, black/white, on/off kind of question. There are many permutations and shades of gray.

First, it is not illegal to be intoxicated or possess a firearm while intoxicated inside your own home (in Texas) (Note that a CHL is not carrying under authority of their license to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.)

So if you are dealing with a clear-cut case where deadly force is justified under Texas law, such as an armed home invasion, being intoxicated does not remove one's justification to use deadly force.

More worrisome and realistic, however, would be in a situation that is not clear cut, and a drunk making some judgment error that gets someone shot who shouldn't have been shot. That would be the nightmare scenario.

[sjfcontrol]

i suppose but whats thought provoking for me is if something did happen like someone breaking down the door and the firearm was used how would the factor of sobriety play in? would it still be just as cut and dry as you being sober and shooting someone breaking into your home? or not?

This is not an easy yes/no, black/white, on/off kind of question. There are many permutations and shades of gray.

First, it is not illegal to be intoxicated or possess a firearm while intoxicated inside your own home (in Texas) (Note that a CHL is not carrying under authority of their license to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.)

So if you are dealing with a clear-cut case where deadly force is justified under Texas law, such as an armed home invasion, being intoxicated does not remove one's justification to use deadly force.

More worrisome and realistic, however, would be in a situation that is not clear cut, and a drunk making some judgment error that gets someone shot who shouldn't have been shot. That would be the nightmare scenario.

A home invasion does not have to be armed. If they're breaking in your front door, how are you supposed to know if they're armed?

[MeMelYup]

i suppose but whats thought provoking for me is if something did happen like someone breaking down the door and the firearm was used how would the factor of sobriety play in? would it still be just as cut and dry as you being sober and shooting someone breaking into your home? or not?

This is not an easy yes/no, black/white, on/off kind of question. There are many permutations and shades of gray.

First, it is not illegal to be intoxicated or possess a firearm while intoxicated inside your own home (in Texas) (Note that a CHL is not carrying under authority of their license to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.)

So if you are dealing with a clear-cut case where deadly force is justified under Texas law, such as an armed home invasion, being intoxicated does not remove one's justification to use deadly force.

More worrisome and realistic, however, would be in a situation that is not clear cut, and a drunk making some judgment error that gets someone shot who shouldn't have been shot. That would be the nightmare scenario.

Keep in mind they can still sue you for wrongful death and you would have to prove you were not impaired enough for it to have effected your judgement.

[srothstein]

If my kids have a friend stop in, they are going to see the dad walking around in a t-shirt and a gun. If has never been a big deal one way or the other.

Not a big deal, but I bet the daughter's dates are more polite and get her home on time, right?

[Unicorn Rancher]

you would have to prove you were not impaired enough for it to have effected your judgement.

Cite please.