Post Office Carry

[trlawles]

Have read a few threads on Post Office Carry with a CHL, I still haven't got a clear answer that I understand.

Is it Legal or Not Legal to carry concealed if you have a CHL inside the Post Office ?

[mojo84]

Not legal. Don't do it.

[goose]

Not legal. Don't do it.

Inside a Kroger, gift shop, etc = Legal.
Going to a stand alone PO = Not legal. Don't do it.

[E.Marquez]

Have read a few threads on Post Office Carry with a CHL, I still haven't got a clear answer that I understand.

Is it Legal or Not Legal to carry concealed if you have a CHL inside the Post Office ?

No, federal law prohibits it
18 USC § 930 - Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/930" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[RoyGBiv]

My local ACE hardware has a PO inside.
When I need to go to the PO, I go to ACE and can carry legally.

DO NOT carry at USPS-owned offices.

[E.Marquez]

My local ACE hardware has a PO inside.
When I need to go to the PO, I go to ACE and can carry legally.

DO NOT carry at USPS-owned offices.

That would be a Contract Postal Unit (CPU)
http://about.usps.com/suppliers/becomin ... l-unit.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And good point, as long as you do not enter the controlled area,,,(not that they would let you)
it should all be good.

[Keith B]

My local ACE hardware has a PO inside.
When I need to go to the PO, I go to ACE and can carry legally.

DO NOT carry at USPS-owned offices.

That would be a Contract Postal Unit (CPU)
http://about.usps.com/suppliers/becomin ... l-unit.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And good point, as long as you do not enter the controlled area,,,(not that they would let you)
it should all be good.

Per the link above:

What is a Contract Postal Unit?

A Contract Postal Unit (CPU) is a supplier-owned or supplier-leased site operated by the supplier, under contract to the Postal Service™ to provide postal services to the public at Postal prices.

Per 18 USC § 930 - Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities

(g) As used in this section:
(1) The term “Federal facility” means a building or part thereof owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing their official duties.

So, in the case of a CPU, the property is not owned or leased by the federal government and they don't have federal employees working there regularly performing their duties, so normal state statutes, like 30.06 written or verbal notice, would apply to restricting carry at those locations. The 'controlled area' would not be off limits either.

[trlawles]

Thanks for the replies, looks pretty straight forward " Do not carry in a Post Office "

[Keith B]

Thanks for the replies, looks pretty straight forward " Do not carry in a Post Office "

"Do not carry in a federally owned building" is a more correct statement.

[trlawles]

I stand Corrected " A Federally Owned Building " Thank You ..

[chasfm11]

Thanks for the replies, looks pretty straight forward " Do not carry in a Post Office "

"Do not carry in a federally owned building" is a more correct statement.

But you should also consider US Army Corps of Engineers property which does not need to include a building. Many (most?) of the Texas lakes are under USACOE control. We have an RV and wish that we could stop at some of the lake campgrounds but they are off limits to us unless we leave our guns at home - something that I have no intention of doing.

The interesting paradox is that the National Parks - minus the buildings - are not off limits. So I can carry in Yellowstone but not around Lake Grapevine.

[carrydave]

we were taught that you cant carry "ON FEDERAL PROPERTY"


so unlike schools and hospitals we were instructed this INCLUDES the parking lot.

when i go to the post office i park im the autozone lot next door.

i have noticed several things i learned in chl class were hotly disputed here on the forum. I am greatful for any input on this as well.

[longtooth]

Those that dispute the No Carry at USPS will some day wind up being the test case.
To quote a good friend lawyer. Those who live on the cutting edge of law ususally bleed to death financially.

I dont.

[baldeagle]

we were taught that you cant carry "ON FEDERAL PROPERTY"


so unlike schools and hospitals we were instructed this INCLUDES the parking lot.

when i go to the post office i park im the autozone lot next door.

i have noticed several things i learned in chl class were hotly disputed here on the forum. I am greatful for any input on this as well.

So, when you need to mail something and you want to drive through the property and drop the mail in one of those boxes they put out close to the road, do you disarm before entering?

[E.Marquez]

Those that dispute the No Carry at USPS will some day wind up being the test case.
To quote a good friend lawyer. Those who live on the cutting edge of law ususally bleed to death financially.

I dont.

I was always under the impression (correct or incorrect) that the parking lot of a USPS was off limits as well.
As I am not a lawyer, nor versed in leaglieze as a layman....
Im not sure what the "meaning" or implications are of the part in red..

As used in this section:
(1) The term “Federal facility” means a building or part thereof owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing their official duties.

I ASSUMED.... as the parking lot is OWNED by the federal government, and the parking lot is part of the building property,,,

But I do not know....

As always, Bad guys do not read signs or follow laws.
Good guys do and do not carry.
No Federal Employee (of which i am one) is safer because of this insane law.