Can I buy a firearm from someone under 21?

propellerhead · #16

He could have received it from his Dad as a gift. I don't see why he can't sell it then.

pbandjelly · #17

yeah, I agree that it's wiser to pass, but I disagree that there is something "cooky" going.
Too many scenarios that make sense about the Dad buying it for him, giving it to him. If you were to buy it, I would want original purchaser's paperwork, at least to see.

I wouldn't buy it if there is something else that you want more. Save your money for what you want.

Jeremae · #18

This could be completely on the up and up.

I purchased a handgun for my son before he was 18. Technically it was still MY handgun and I maintained Control of and responsibility for it until he turned 18 (kept in my Safe, He only handled/shot it under adult supervision etc.)

Now he is 18. It is HIS gun and he can keep it in his safe and shoot it anytime he wants (as long as he doesn't annoy me or the neighbors after dark) and sell it himself. If he purchases from an individual, he can buy any other handgun he wants legally. Since we reload the ammo issue is moot but they do sell carbines in most pistol calibers so that can be dealt with. The ONLY restriction is that BATFE regulations FORBID a FFL from selling a handgun to under 21 so if he wants a handgun from a licensed dealer, I or my wife must purchase it as a gift for him.

As for CHL, if he were to join military (or police force) he could get one before he was 21.

On his 18th birthday, he marched into Academy and bought himself a Remington 870 pump.

seamusTX · #19

Jeremae wrote:... they do sell carbines in most pistol calibers so that can be dealt with.

The last time I shopped at Academy (last week), I bought shotgun and handgun ammo (9 mm and .375 Magnum). When the clerk rang up the shotgun shells, the terminal asked if I was born before this date in 1988. When she rang up the handgun ammo, it asked if I was born before this date in 1985.

This is a new system for them. Before, the cashiers were trained only to ask if the buyer was 18.

- Jim

pbandjelly · #20

you know what's funny? it's the same when you buy beer, cigs, and

wait for it

fuel additives.
ya srsly

seamusTX · #21

They card you for fuel additives? Sheesh.

BTW, it's now harder to buy over-the-counter allergy remedies than heroin, and takes longer.

- Jim

wrt45 · #22

seamusTX wrote:They card you for fuel additives? Sheesh.

BTW, it's now harder to buy over-the-counter allergy remedies than heroin, and takes longer.

- Jim

And typewriter correction fluid, and magic markers, and all kinds of paint, and a whole lot of other things that are every-day useful products.

Its what we should expect from our "nanny"............

pbandjelly · #23

seamusTX wrote:They card you for fuel additives? Sheesh.

BTW, it's now harder to buy over-the-counter allergy remedies than heroin, and takes longer.

- Jim

just get the stuff with PhenylEphrine in it. works just as good, and can't be made into Meth.

propellerhead · #24

Contact the boy's father.

KBCraig · #25

pbandjelly wrote:just get the stuff with PhenylEphrine in it. works just as good, and can't be made into Meth.

I beg to differ... phenylephedrine is not just as good as pseudoephedrine. The "War on cold medicine" has not reduced meth usage one bit, although it has reduced homegrown drug labs. Instead, users have to buy a purer, more potent version imported from Mexico, called "Ice".

It's the same result whenever prohibition is tried: outlawing beer by the Volstead act turned millions to rotgut whiskey (blinding hundreds and killing thousands). Cracking down on cocaine led to the creation of crack. Cracking down on over-the-counter cold medicines led to the creation of Ice.

And meanwhile, allergies are kicking my butt.

Back to the original topic: yes, it's perfectly legal to buy a handgun from someone under 21, or even from someone under 18 who may not legally possess it. Their status doesn't affect your legal status in purchasing it.

But in the situation described, I definitely wouldn't purchase it without talking to the young man's father.

Kevin

seamusTX · #26

pbandjelly wrote:just get the stuff with PhenylEphrine in it. works just as good, and can't be made into Meth.

I prefer pseudephedrine. It works best for me.

I actually haven't seen any allergy or cold medication on the shelves at the store where I shop.

- Jim

stevie_d_64 · #27

KBCraig wrote:Back to the original topic: yes, it's perfectly legal to buy a handgun from someone under 21, or even from someone under 18 who may not legally possess it. Their status doesn't affect your legal status in purchasing it.

Kevin

Whew, I dunno Kevin...I do see what you mean though in that context, but lets say you purchase this "thing"...

And that thing is stolen property???

I thought it was a crime to be in posession of stolen property...Whether you bought it or it was given to you???

Somebody will correct me if I am wrong, I am sure...No prob...

Now, maybe I thought if you didn't know it was stolen, you'd still have to have that figured out in court...etc etc...Right???

But in any event I would still not go through with a purchase like this without a full disclosure from a separate source...Especially in this case where I think it would be good just to get a confirming story from the Dad, just to be sure everything was "cool"...

It would be for everyone's protection...In cases like this, I believe that is prudent...

packina45 · #28

PPE (phenylephedrine) and PPA (phenylpropanolamine) were dangerous drugs BEFORE they learned how to make Meth out of pseudoephedrine, IMHO, and should never have been licensed for OTC sale without a prescription.

This coming from someone who was a paramedic in the mid 70's to early 80's. I could tell you about calls involving phenylephedrine that would curl your toes.

But then, I could tell you the same about chiropractors, and they're still legal, too...

KBCraig · #29

stevie_d_64 wrote:
KBCraig wrote:Back to the original topic: yes, it's perfectly legal to buy a handgun from someone under 21, or even from someone under 18 who may not legally possess it. Their status doesn't affect your legal status in purchasing it.

Kevin
Whew, I dunno Kevin...I do see what you mean though in that context, but lets say you purchase this "thing"...

And that thing is stolen property???

What if you purchase this "thing" from a licensed dealer, and it turns out to be stolen?

You took a logical leap there that's not warranted. I wasn't speaking about rightful ownership, only legal possession. If it's stolen, the seller's age doesn't matter. If it's legal, then again the seller's age doesn't matter.

And again, I'd run this past the father before assuming the son was legit.

Kevin

pbandjelly · #30

KBCraig wrote: the son was legit.

Kevin

Too Legit, Too Legit to Quit.....
:chldancing

sorry, had to...

What do you mean PhenylEphrine isn't as good as PseudoEphedrine?
just from your experience?
if so, that's fine. But the PhenylEphrine has always dried me out just as well as the Meth stuff.

anyway. that's my take, m'kay.