Do I have to hide my handgun while changing/dressing in gym?

[kjolly]

Something that has not been mentioned yet, is if someone sees you stashing the gun they might be tempted to break intot he locker and steal it.
Other scenio is we have a lot of scared liberals that look at guns with fear, trembling and a dime for 911.

Last Christmas overheard conversation of two co-workers on other side of office. One was complaining that his son wanted a toy gun for christmas and he cannot understand how his son got the idea as they do not let him watch any TV shows with guns. At the time I was using a homemade screensaver of guns and I went back to my office and changed screensavers so as not to offend anyone. seemed to me like this man needed a good course in handling guns and needs to take his son to the range to properly educate him. So many fathers in todays liberal society fail to teach their sons safe gun handling and shooting ettiqute.

[Oldgringo]

Leave it in the car?

[anygunanywhere]

Something that has not been mentioned yet, is if someone sees you stashing the gun they might be tempted to break intot he locker and steal it.
Other scenio is we have a lot of scared liberals that look at guns with fear, trembling and a dime for 911.

Last Christmas overheard conversation of two co-workers on other side of office. One was complaining that his son wanted a toy gun for christmas and he cannot understand how his son got the idea as they do not let him watch any TV shows with guns. At the time I was using a homemade screensaver of guns and I went back to my office and changed screensavers so as not to offend anyone. seemed to me like this man needed a good course in handling guns and needs to take his son to the range to properly educate him. So many girly man fathers in todays liberal society fail to teach their sons safe gun handling and shooting ettiqute.

FIFY

Anygunanywhere

[fickman]

A few things from my perspective:
1. Firearms are against the 24 Hour Fitness member contract. It's in the fine print, but it's not enforceable 30.06 language. If discovered, you won't be guilty of criminal trespass, but they can cancel your membership without compensation. I prepaid for mind, so that's a lot to lose. Concealed is concealed.

2. I keep a j-frame in my bag and normally I workout when it's slow enough that I can keep my bag with me.

3. The SuperSport where I go has a few private locker rooms with lockers, a toilet, and a shower inside. If you really need accommodation (and your gym has them), consider using those.

4. I agree with others regarding intentionally failing to conceal. A public restroom / locker room is still public. You have an expectation of privacy in the toilet stalls, but not in the locker room. (You have an expectation of privacy in the locker room to not be video recorded, but that's about it.)

5. I also looked at their video screens to know the security camera coverage for the parking lot. You might be surprised at which spots are covered and which ones aren't - the camera locations can be misleading. I always park squarely in the picture and you can see every approach angle of my vehicle. This tip was to help you, but if you go the same club I do, don't take my spot!

[NorthDallas7]

Something that has not been mentioned yet, is if someone sees you stashing the gun they might be tempted to break intot he locker and steal it.
Other scenio is we have a lot of scared liberals that look at guns with fear, trembling and a dime for 911.

Last Christmas overheard conversation of two co-workers on other side of office. One was complaining that his son wanted a toy gun for christmas and he cannot understand how his son got the idea as they do not let him watch any TV shows with guns. At the time I was using a homemade screensaver of guns and I went back to my office and changed screensavers so as not to offend anyone. seemed to me like this man needed a good course in handling guns and needs to take his son to the range to properly educate him. So many fathers in todays liberal society fail to teach their sons safe gun handling and shooting ettiqute.

Thanks kjolly, I have worried about that too.....somebody seeing it and stealing it.

Say, I notice you have a SCCY CPX Gen 2. Can I ask if you are happy with it? Thanks again.

[NorthDallas7]

A few things from my perspective:
1. Firearms are against the 24 Hour Fitness member contract. It's in the fine print, but it's not enforceable 30.06 language. If discovered, you won't be guilty of criminal trespass, but they can cancel your membership without compensation. I prepaid for mind, so that's a lot to lose. Concealed is concealed.

2. I keep a j-frame in my bag and normally I workout when it's slow enough that I can keep my bag with me.

3. The SuperSport where I go has a few private locker rooms with lockers, a toilet, and a shower inside. If you really need accommodation (and your gym has them), consider using those.

4. I agree with others regarding intentionally failing to conceal. A public restroom / locker room is still public. You have an expectation of privacy in the toilet stalls, but not in the locker room. (You have an expectation of privacy in the locker room to not be video recorded, but that's about it.)

5. I also looked at their video screens to know the security camera coverage for the parking lot. You might be surprised at which spots are covered and which ones aren't - the camera locations can be misleading. I always park squarely in the picture and you can see every approach angle of my vehicle. This tip was to help you, but if you go the same club I do, don't take my spot!

Wow......good info. I'm thinking now I better just leave it in the car.

After reading the responses, I think CHL instructors should maybe stress a little more how crucial it is to keep that gun so it's virtually impossible for anyone to see. I mean "unintentional" seems useless. It seems accidental to inadvertent exposure to everything in between is going to be viewed as "intentional" and that needs to be hammered home in the classes.

Thanks........

[Slowplay]

Leave it in the car?

I know several people that have had wallets & other items stolen from locked lockers while at 24 hour fitness and Lifetime. An alarm on your car/truck and a bolted down console vault is also a good idea as vehicles get hit in gym parking lots too.

[NorthDallas7]

Leave it in the car?

I know several people that have had wallets & other items stolen from locked lockers while at 24 hour fitness and Lifetime. An alarm on your car/truck and a bolted down console vault is also a good idea as vehicles get hit in gym parking lots too.

Good point. Gym parking lots are notorious for car break ins.

[SewTexas]

when I worked child care at a gym we had cars broken into once a week at least....park under a light and straight in front of a door.

[SlowDave]

Good discussion. I think I disagree with one aspect though. If the OP removes the firearm under a towel or whatever and does his best to hide it and place in the locker, hiding all the way, and someone somehow gets a little glimpse under the corner of a towel or whatever, to me, that is unintentional and is the same as the guy with the coat that rode up. He was trying to conceal it, just was unsuccessful. Conceal doesn't necessarily mean ON your body, right? Hence purse carry, etc. So, he was moving it from one concealed position to another concealed position under concealment, or at least attempted concealment.

Note: all the other issues are still there, such as taking the ride anyway, lawyer fees, someone seeing you transfer it and then breaking into your locker, etc. Just saying a failed transfer under cover would to me seem to be an unintentional lack of concealment. Thoughts?

[The Annoyed Man]

Or, you could just do the far simpler thing suggested by others: take your gym bag into the toilet stall with you, transfer the gun to the gym bag, and lock the bag in the locker. All those other "or you coulds" just complicate a simple procedure and open you up to a bigger risk of liability. Just bag it in the toilet stall and be done with it. Reverse the procedure on leaving.

I really don't see why this has to be so complicated.

[NorthDallas7]

Good discussion. I think I disagree with one aspect though. If the OP removes the firearm under a towel or whatever and does his best to hide it and place in the locker, hiding all the way, and someone somehow gets a little glimpse under the corner of a towel or whatever, to me, that is unintentional and is the same as the guy with the coat that rode up. He was trying to conceal it, just was unsuccessful. Conceal doesn't necessarily mean ON your body, right? Hence purse carry, etc. So, he was moving it from one concealed position to another concealed position under concealment, or at least attempted concealment.

Note: all the other issues are still there, such as taking the ride anyway, lawyer fees, someone seeing you transfer it and then breaking into your locker, etc. Just saying a failed transfer under cover would to me seem to be an unintentional lack of concealment. Thoughts?

Thanks SlowDave. Your thoughts were my initial thoughts. And as I read in other forums, I see similar opinions. Accidental and or inadvertent exposure is not "intentional".

I think the bigger issues now are the other ones. Such as the Gym not allowing firearms and my membership getting revoked (if someone should catch a glimpse( and theft, etc.

Thanks for your constructive input. I appreciate it.

[C-dub]

Good discussion. I think I disagree with one aspect though. If the OP removes the firearm under a towel or whatever and does his best to hide it and place in the locker, hiding all the way, and someone somehow gets a little glimpse under the corner of a towel or whatever, to me, that is unintentional and is the same as the guy with the coat that rode up. He was trying to conceal it, just was unsuccessful. Conceal doesn't necessarily mean ON your body, right? Hence purse carry, etc. So, he was moving it from one concealed position to another concealed position under concealment, or at least attempted concealment.

Note: all the other issues are still there, such as taking the ride anyway, lawyer fees, someone seeing you transfer it and then breaking into your locker, etc. Just saying a failed transfer under cover would to me seem to be an unintentional lack of concealment. Thoughts?

Thanks SlowDave. Your thoughts were my initial thoughts. And as I read in other forums, I see similar opinions. Accidental and or inadvertent exposure is not "intentional".

I think the bigger issues now are the other ones. Such as the Gym not allowing firearms and my membership getting revoked (if someone should catch a glimpse( and theft, etc.

Thanks for your constructive input. I appreciate it.

Covering the weapon without exposing it and moving it from concealment into a locker is one option, but that isn't what you asked.

can I openly expose the handgun as I remove it from my waist and place it in the locker?

[RPB]

Good discussion. I think I disagree with one aspect though. If the OP removes the firearm under a towel or whatever and does his best to hide it and place in the locker, hiding all the way, and someone somehow gets a little glimpse under the corner of a towel or whatever, to me, that is unintentional and is the same as the guy with the coat that rode up. He was trying to conceal it, just was unsuccessful. Conceal doesn't necessarily mean ON your body, right? Hence purse carry, etc. So, he was moving it from one concealed position to another concealed position under concealment, or at least attempted concealment.

Note: all the other issues are still there, such as taking the ride anyway, lawyer fees, someone seeing you transfer it and then breaking into your locker, etc. Just saying a failed transfer under cover would to me seem to be an unintentional lack of concealment. Thoughts?

Thanks SlowDave. Your thoughts were my initial thoughts. And as I read in other forums, I see similar opinions. Accidental and or inadvertent exposure is not "intentional".

I think the bigger issues now are the other ones. Such as the Gym not allowing firearms and my membership getting revoked (if someone should catch a glimpse( and theft, etc.

Thanks for your constructive input. I appreciate it.

Covering the weapon without exposing it and moving it from concealment into a locker is one option, but that isn't what you asked.

can I openly expose the handgun as I remove it from my waist and place it in the locker?

That's what towels/gym bags/fanny packs are for if you know in advance you are going to the gym ..., or in cars, I use garbage bags or rags

Who goes to the gym without intending to? ... get a fanny pack/gym bag with a "safe pocket" (no chapstick, pen etc can pull a trigger, have your gun in a holster in the safe pocket) etc to carry in with you put a small hand towel in the gym bag's "safe pocket" with the holstered gun to transfer it around in the car to a pants pocket later if desired while covered by a rag...a bit of advance planning helps... steps taken such as that illustrate that the un-concealment was not intentional, but inadvertent.

[tommyg]

Pull down a side street pull your gun out and put it in the glove box before you go to the gym.Be sure no one is near by when you do it.
When you leave pull down a side street and put your gun in your usual carry. If you are reasonably careful you don't have much to worry about