Citizenship shown on Texas CHL?

[tbrown]

It doesn't matter if it's a CHL or DL. You have to already be a registered voter. The plastic card only verifies you are you, and helps prevent voter fraud by saying you're someone else and stealing their vote.

[JALLEN]

Boy, you guys are stuffy back there.

Here in San Diego, Che Guevara or the Pope could walk in my polling place, say he was me and vote, no problem, no ID, no letter from my mom or anything.

Of course, if I was somebody else, I wouldn't pretend to be me. I'd pick somebody younger, richer and better looking.

[gdanaher]

This all seems to point to more holes in the non-problem of voter ID. So, someone is an illegal alien. He can go get a state ID or DL. Perhaps he needs something to show he is here on a work permit or something, but he isn't a citizen. When he uses it to vote, they scan the DL for info but if it doesn't work they read the info off of it and look at the picture. Mine didn't work for five years. They aren't experts and if you have a well made counterfeit DL, and you are illegal, and you want to vote, you are going to vote. But nobody has suggested that it is a real problem. I have a good notion to register my two dogs and then have them vote absentee. That way, they don't need a state ID, don't have to walk into the voting area wagging their tail, and all is good. In the mean time, only something like 154 counties have a DPS office where you can get a state ID to vote. Real voters get left out, and after all, that seems to be the whole point of this foolishness. What load of dung.

[tbrown]

It argues that next session there should be a bill requiring voter registration to do a background check for citizenship and voter eligibility. If it's a reasonable restriction for buying guns, it's a reasonable restriction for voter registration. The same is true for requiring ID, come to think of it.

[frplf]

I think that non-citizen DL's are different than normal DL's. They are oriented sideways like an under 21 DL and say that the person is not a US citizen.

[Topbuilder]

I don't think there is large quantity of people with CHL's who are in this country illegally. We hope zero right? The problem is there IS a large quantity of illegals who feel they are ENTITLED to vote in U.S. elections and who are in fact registered to vote. Estimates run as high as 3% of registered voters are in this country illegally. Are we surprised the same people who broke laws coming into this country would lie on a voter registration form? Bottom line is if showing ID's at the polling place eliminates 10% of the million illegally registered voters I say it is a win. But you can see the motivation by the left to block it as the majority of illegal criminal aliens vote democrat...

[hillfighter]

I think that non-citizen DL's are different than normal DL's. They are oriented sideways like an under 21 DL and say that the person is not a US citizen.

I think that's only for international students and other non-immigrants but Resident Aliens get the normal license even though they can't legally vote yet.

[77346]

...So, someone is an illegal alien. He can go get a state ID or DL. Perhaps he needs something to show he is here on a work permit or something, but he isn't a citizen. When he uses it to vote...

As others have said already, you need to register to vote... this isn't done on the fly by just showing a DL at the voting precinct... the clerk can't on the spot examine the DL and grant the person the right to vote on the spot.

Showing picture ID (i.e. DL, CHL, or other government issued ID) is to show that you are who you say you are...

[Pinkycatcher]

Here's something I can chime in on. I work the voting at my local precinct I'm the assistant judge (associate judge? I forget) But basically a CHL would be perfectly fine for voting, as will basically any ID. You hand me an ID and we look it up on our roll sheet, if you're there then you just sign the sheet and we hand you your ballot. But library cards, school ids, work ids, driver's license, voter registration, chl, military id, anything basically and I will accept it as long as it matches the roll sheet. If you're not on there then there are few other things that happen, but basically a provisional ballot can always be counted, if you go into a voting station and say you want to vote in Texas and you have something wrong we can give you a provisional ballot to vote on and that will only be counted under close circumstances and whatnot.