Work at Fry's, Handbook says no Knives/Firearms on property
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Work at Fry's, Handbook says no Knives/Firearms on property
That doesn't include the parking lot correct? It doesn't make sense since they sell all sorts of knives there!
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Re: Work at Fry's, Handbook says no Knives/Firearms on prope
Private employers can restrict whatever they wish on their property. I would have to see the exact wording, but "property" includes parking lots.Boma wrote:That doesn't include the parking lot correct? It doesn't make sense since they sell all sorts of knives there!
The ONLY places where property or premises does not include parking lots is those specific places listed under 46.03 and 46.035, Texas Penal Code.
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/do ... m#46.03.00
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Sounds like you may want to encourage your rep to support HB 220 or HB 511 (or both).
Discussion here on these bills.
Basically they are designed to encourage employers to allow you to leave your firearm in your vehicle if they feel they must make their property a victim zone instead of prohibiting them in all parts of their property.
Discussion here on these bills.
Basically they are designed to encourage employers to allow you to leave your firearm in your vehicle if they feel they must make their property a victim zone instead of prohibiting them in all parts of their property.
Dangit how am I supposed to protect myself to and from work....
Doesn't make any sense b/c I carried in there before as a customer b/c they have a "no firearms and weapons allowed" sticker and no 30.06 at all. I guess I'm under different terms since I am an employee now.
It specifically says, " Bringing dangerous or unauthorized materials, such as explosives, firearms, or knives (other than company tools) on company property.
Doesn't make any sense b/c I carried in there before as a customer b/c they have a "no firearms and weapons allowed" sticker and no 30.06 at all. I guess I'm under different terms since I am an employee now.
It specifically says, " Bringing dangerous or unauthorized materials, such as explosives, firearms, or knives (other than company tools) on company property.
Boma: so far as the law is concerned, you can still carry there. Not just in the parking lot, but while working.
Your employee handbook is exactly that: the employer's rules for employees. The phrase you quoted is not a valid 30.06 notice. You can get fired, sure; but you aren't at any legal risk.
As for the "knives" issue... how, exactly, do Fry's employees open boxes? Boxcutters, perhaps? Those weapons of mass destruction used by terrorists on 9/11? And the company actually provides them to employees?
Kevin
Your employee handbook is exactly that: the employer's rules for employees. The phrase you quoted is not a valid 30.06 notice. You can get fired, sure; but you aren't at any legal risk.
As for the "knives" issue... how, exactly, do Fry's employees open boxes? Boxcutters, perhaps? Those weapons of mass destruction used by terrorists on 9/11? And the company actually provides them to employees?
Kevin
It seems that such a rule is an attempt to limit liability, so the company can say, "Well, we told them not to...so we can't be held at fault."
Regarding how to protect yourself getting to work and back home, the typical organizational response would be something like, "That is of no concern to our stockholders/board of directors/etc." or "The employee should not take the law into their own hands. The employee should call the police."
Either way, it seems the effort is to protect the company bank accounts - "follow the money" is a good guide to understanding motivations.
Regarding how to protect yourself getting to work and back home, the typical organizational response would be something like, "That is of no concern to our stockholders/board of directors/etc." or "The employee should not take the law into their own hands. The employee should call the police."
Either way, it seems the effort is to protect the company bank accounts - "follow the money" is a good guide to understanding motivations.
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Boma,
Should there be a workplace shooting incident (some employee going postal) and you are killed or made into your favorite vegetable, you instruct your family to sue the company for not allowing you the means to protect yourself while at work, yet at the same time, failing to take responsibility for your protection.
Wait until they have to pay out millions of $$ for that bull...talk about "liability" concerns...they should have listened.
Or, you can carry anyway (be discreet).
Or work elsewhere.
That's about it.
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Should there be a workplace shooting incident (some employee going postal) and you are killed or made into your favorite vegetable, you instruct your family to sue the company for not allowing you the means to protect yourself while at work, yet at the same time, failing to take responsibility for your protection.
Wait until they have to pay out millions of $$ for that bull...talk about "liability" concerns...they should have listened.
Or, you can carry anyway (be discreet).
Or work elsewhere.
That's about it.
-- John D.
boma my employer has similar policies in place just do like I do leave it in your car, tell nobody that it is there, DO NOT carry it on you while working, lock your car (I know no brainer), and most importantly (I doubt this applies to you) DO NOT breach any secure zones with your car while the gun is in there and you should be alright.