Recent Changes in CHL / Deferred Adjudication

[tacticool]

If I'm not mistaken there is a bill in the legislature currently that would require Texas residents to have a Texas CHL to carry. An out of state license would no longer be valid.

The same legislator also authored bills to create a state income tax and ban people under 21 from possessing certain rifles.

[steve817]

I have never been arrested of any crime, but do wonder, when we, as a civilization, are going to allow people who have served their time for the crime, rest? We expect inmates to do the time, but when they are set free, we still hanbdcuff them with the crime for the rest of their lives. Why did we set them free, if we are going to still hold them guilty for the rest of their lives? Water over the bridge does not return to fall over the bridge again and again.
If you have served your time and are now off parole, you have served your sentence. You are free to go on with life as you see fit. So why do we still stop you from protecting yourself? Police are there only to write the report. We can not expect the police to protect us 24 hours a day. I once had a judge tell me the police report was hear say, because the officer was not there to witness the incident. And thus would not allow the police report to be introduced.

Up to a certain point I agree. I have no problems at all with a non-violent felon carrying. I can't however apply those thoughts to violent offenders though.

[WildBill]

I have never been arrested of any crime, but do wonder, when we, as a civilization, are going to allow people who have served their time for the crime, rest? We expect inmates to do the time, but when they are set free, we still hanbdcuff them with the crime for the rest of their lives. Why did we set them free, if we are going to still hold them guilty for the rest of their lives? Water over the bridge does not return to fall over the bridge again and again.
If you have served your time and are now off parole, you have served your sentence. You are free to go on with life as you see fit. So why do we still stop you from protecting yourself? Police are there only to write the report. We can not expect the police to protect us 24 hours a day. I once had a judge tell me the police report was hear say, because the officer was not there to witness the incident. And thus would not allow the police report to be introduced.

Up to a certain point I agree. I have no problems at all with a non-violent felon carrying. I can't however apply those thoughts to violent offenders though.

It's not just carrying that concerns me. Having a felony conviction limits many good job opportunities for people even if they have turned their lives around and have remained crime free for many years. If good paying jobs are off limits because of their criminal record, that increases the incentive to stay with a life of crime.

[Skiprr]

I know this Topic has been here for almost a month, but it just ain't the correct place for it. "Site Announcements, Questions & Suggestions" is for, well, you guessed it. It's about the website, not other stuff.

Movin' this one to a more appropriate place.

[djjoshuad]

Not trying to stir the pot, but I have an honest question. My question is not about right or wrong, it's about the letter of the law.

I was under the impression that any and all felonies precluded one from owning a firearm legally, including carrying one in public. Is that not the case? If it is, then wouldn't the burglary felony be a non-starter?

[rm9792]

You are confusing the issue a little. They are referring to Def Adjudication which isn't the same as a conviction. If they went to trial and got convicted of a felony then yes it would preclude ownership in most circumstances.

[45 4 life]

I also have a question.
Can the posters and others with this type or class of Def Adjudication legally purchase firearms?

[USA1]

I also have a question.
Can the posters and others with this type or class of Def Adjudication legally purchase firearms?

Yep. A long time ago, in a galaxy far away, I was charged with and plead guilty to a similar type of felony and did Deferred Adjudication. After successfully completing the terms of my probation, the felony charge was off of my record. From then on I was able to legally purchase firearms and answer "no" on the "have you ever been convicted of a felony" question on job and other applications.

Please don't hold that against me as it was over 25 years ago and I have long since changed my ways.

[rm9792]

I also have a question.
Can the posters and others with this type or class of Def Adjudication legally purchase firearms?

Sometimes you dont have to wait. I had an ins fraud def adj and it never stopped me from buying, only getting a chl. Ahhh, to be young, broke and stupid.

[heeler]

I have never been arrested of any crime, but do wonder, when we, as a civilization, are going to allow people who have served their time for the crime, rest? We expect inmates to do the time, but when they are set free, we still hanbdcuff them with the crime for the rest of their lives. Why did we set them free, if we are going to still hold them guilty for the rest of their lives? Water over the bridge does not return to fall over the bridge again and again.
If you have served your time and are now off parole, you have served your sentence. You are free to go on with life as you see fit. So why do we still stop you from protecting yourself? Police are there only to write the report. We can not expect the police to protect us 24 hours a day. I once had a judge tell me the police report was hear say, because the officer was not there to witness the incident. And thus would not allow the police report to be introduced.

Up to a certain point I agree. I have no problems at all with a non-violent felon carrying. I can't however apply those thoughts to violent offenders though.

It's not just carrying that concerns me. Having a felony conviction limits many good job opportunities for people even if they have turned their lives around and have remained crime free for many years. If good paying jobs are off limits because of their criminal record, that increases the incentive to stay with a life of crime.

It can in fact do just that or be the cause of some very deep resentment.
Point in case.
I had a relative who was convicted of a non violent felony in the mid 1960's and served four years of his life in the TDC and was on parole for another two years.
At age 66 he had been working for a company for a number of years and since his release from incarceration had walked a straight line.
A new group bought the company he worked for and after about three months they had all the employees fill out a back ground information query in which one question was have you ever been convicted of a felony?
He answered honestly.
He was fired that following Monday.
You are never ever free from a felony conviction.

[WildBill]

It can in fact do just that or be the cause of some very deep resentment.
Point in case.
I had a relative who was convicted of a non violent felony in the mid 1960's and served four years of his life in the TDC and was on parole for another two years.
At age 66 he had been working for a company for a number of years and since his release from incarceration had walked a straight line.
A new group bought the company he worked for and after about three months they had all the employees fill out a back ground information query in which one question was have you ever been convicted of a felony?
He answered honestly.
He was fired that following Monday.
You are never ever free from a felony conviction.

This ia a perfect example of what I was talking about. Fired for being honest.

[Jumping Frog]

Up to a certain point I agree. I have no problems at all with a non-violent felon carrying. I can't however apply those thoughts to violent offenders though.

For the first 190 or so years of our Republic, released felons could have firearms, and society seemed to survive just fine. People forget that banning felons from firearms ownership is an historically recent development.

[dbox]

I too am in the exact same boat....I'm a current CHL holder with a more than 10yr old deferred burglary of a habitation charge. If there is ANYTHING I can do to be able to renew my license, I'm more than willing. Mine is set to expire in October of 2012.

[Charles L. Cotton]

I too am in the exact same boat....I'm a current CHL holder with a more than 10yr old deferred burglary of a habitation charge. If there is ANYTHING I can do to be able to renew my license, I'm more than willing. Mine is set to expire in October of 2012.

There's nothing you can do to renew a Texas CHL as the law stands now. This is something that likely will be addressed during the 2013 Texas Legislative Session. There wasn't enough time this session because of the budget and redistricting.

Chas.

[dbox]

Get a Florida non-resident license.

would this actually work? it seems like it would since Texas recognizes the Florida CCW license.