does any carry concealed at prohibited places?

[roff]

I will follow the law and not carry in a validly prohibited place.

However, The House of Blues is not a 51% establishment, sign or not. Both the Dallas and Houston locations have a food and beverage license, so they can't be 51%. If they have a 51% sign posted, then it is posted incorrectly and someone needs to notify the TABC regional field office for the area and ask them to investigate the signage being improperly posted.

i was in the concert part of house of blues where there was only bars serving liquor and beer if that changes anything. but thats besides the point, my question was does anyone else carry when they are not allowed to. but that ended up being a stupid question because you are not allowed to admit to breaking the law on this forum.

[WildBill]

but that ended up being a stupid question because you are not allowed to admit to breaking the law on this forum.

Actually the rule is that you can't promote illegal conduct. For example, there are plenty of people on the forum who have admitted to speeding and other traffic violations.

[Keith B]

I will follow the law and not carry in a validly prohibited place.

However, The House of Blues is not a 51% establishment, sign or not. Both the Dallas and Houston locations have a food and beverage license, so they can't be 51%. If they have a 51% sign posted, then it is posted incorrectly and someone needs to notify the TABC regional field office for the area and ask them to investigate the signage being improperly posted.

i was in the concert part of house of blues where there was only bars serving liquor and beer if that changes anything.

It doesn't. The license is for the whole establishment.

[03Lightningrocks]

I will follow the law and not carry in a validly prohibited place.

However, The House of Blues is not a 51% establishment, sign or not. Both the Dallas and Houston locations have a food and beverage license, so they can't be 51%. If they have a 51% sign posted, then it is posted incorrectly and someone needs to notify the TABC regional field office for the area and ask them to investigate the signage being improperly posted.

i was in the concert part of house of blues where there was only bars serving liquor and beer if that changes anything.

It doesn't. The license is for the whole establishment.

This question has been asked in here before but I can't remember the answer. How does that law apply to a bowling alley that has a bar area with a 51% sign? Does this make the entire bowling alley 51%. For instance, I believe I can buy and consume a drink while bowling. Thinking about it, there is no way the entire place is 51%, even if the bar part of the place is.

[roff]

This question has been asked in here before but I can't remember the answer. How does that law apply to a bowling alley that has a bar area with a 51% sign? Does this make the entire bowling alley 51%. For instance, I believe I can buy and consume a drink while bowling. Thinking about it, there is no way the entire place is 51%, even if the bar part of the place is.

lets say for some reason someone sees your firearm or your printing for any reason. the police are called and the place is not properly posted like house of blues. do you get arrested and they worry bout if its posted correctly or not later?

[Beiruty]

It is a bar, you will get arrested posted or otherwise, it is a restaurant, maybe not. If it is a sushi bar (food) and more with 51% posted at the door, you will get arrested too.

[TARX]

Absolutely not! It's just not worth the risk, plus it's against the law. I do try my best to avoid patronizing any place where me and my gun are not welcome.

[srothstein]

This question has been asked in here before but I can't remember the answer. How does that law apply to a bowling alley that has a bar area with a 51% sign? Does this make the entire bowling alley 51%. For instance, I believe I can buy and consume a drink while bowling. Thinking about it, there is no way the entire place is 51%, even if the bar part of the place is.

It is one of those quirks in the law which can happen and doesn't make sense. If the bar is a contracted out bar, it may be able to get a license that is properly 51%. As such, the license may not mark off the bar as the only part that is licensed (this makes ti legal to take the drinks from the bar into the bowling area). In that case, the 51% would apply to the whole bowling alley.

But if the bar is set up as just part of the bowling alley, the license application may have been filled out improperly. This would make the 51% valid for the first year, but when someone notifies TABC, the license should be corrected the next time it is renewed.

[steveincowtown]

but when someone notifies TABC, the license should be corrected the next time it is renewed.

I notifed the TABC of a store close to my house having "too many confusing signs" (i.e. did not say they had a 51% sign and should not) and asked them to do an audit. They guy responible for the area emailed me within 3 days, and the signs were gone within a week.

Never mentioned CHL, never mentioned 51%, just said the sizes were numerous and conflicting.

[sugar land dave]

Are you crazy! No chance this old dog would do such! Read your title: Concealed carry at prohibited places. Too many people have fought too long and too hard for me to disrespect their CHL efforts by doing something stupid.

[Fangs]

I don't. Though I do recall a story TAM (IIRC) posted about a gentleman who went to an off-limits place with his girlfriend and carried in a fanny pack anyway. It saved their lives on their way back to the car when a white van pulled up to block them in conjunction with two individuals walking up behind them. Food for thought.

[LSUTiger]

I do best not to carry intentionally into any prohibited places. Sometimes I have caught myself almost about to such a thing. If I would find myself in such a circumstance I would leave immediately and not make anyone aware of it. I would secure the gun in my car (if leaving altogether wasn't warranted).

Once you become comfortable carrying, it becomes second nature to act naturally and you can become complacent of your surroundings (I tend to focus on my situational awareness in terms of threats, escape routes and defensive positions but you should always be aware of your location and the legality of carrying)

However, while I don't encourage doing anything illegal, I have been in situations where common sense and the law differed (not gun related) and common sense won because its was the right thing to do (common sense really saved my skin).

We can go through a million what if scenarios, and conceivabley, although unlikely, there could be situations where you will have to judge the risk of not carrying vs carrying in a prohibited place.

You never no whey you may find yourself in a situation that you didn't plan for and have to choose between the law and saving your self.

[03Lightningrocks]

I do best not to carry intentionally into any prohibited places. Sometimes I have caught myself almost about to such a thing. If I would find myself in such a circumstance I would leave immediately and not make anyone aware of it. I would secure the gun in my car (if leaving altogether wasn't warranted).

Once you become comfortable carrying, it becomes second nature to act naturally and you can become complacent of your surroundings (I tend to focus on my situational awareness in terms of threats, escape routes and defensive positions but you should always be aware of your location and the legality of carrying)

However, while I don't encourage doing anything illegal, I have been in situations where common sense and the law differed (not gun related) and common sense won because its was the right thing to do (common sense really saved my skin).

We can go through a million what if scenarios, and conceivabley, although unlikely, there could be situations where you will have to judge the risk of not carrying vs carrying in a prohibited place.

You never no whey you may find yourself in a situation that you didn't plan for and have to choose between the law and saving your self.

Like you, I have walked into legally posted places unintentionally. It is easy to do. I was in a Hotel in Austin for two days before spotting the sign. It was on a entrance door at the main lobby. I had come in through the parking garage and had no idea the place was posted.

Nice post by the way. I agree with it.

[ScottDLS]

I do best not to carry intentionally into any prohibited places. Sometimes I have caught myself almost about to such a thing. If I would find myself in such a circumstance I would leave immediately and not make anyone aware of it. I would secure the gun in my car (if leaving altogether wasn't warranted).

Once you become comfortable carrying, it becomes second nature to act naturally and you can become complacent of your surroundings (I tend to focus on my situational awareness in terms of threats, escape routes and defensive positions but you should always be aware of your location and the legality of carrying)

However, while I don't encourage doing anything illegal, I have been in situations where common sense and the law differed (not gun related) and common sense won because its was the right thing to do (common sense really saved my skin).

We can go through a million what if scenarios, and conceivabley, although unlikely, there could be situations where you will have to judge the risk of not carrying vs carrying in a prohibited place.

You never no whey you may find yourself in a situation that you didn't plan for and have to choose between the law and saving your self.

Like you, I have walked into legally posted places unintentionally. It is easy to do. I was in a Hotel in Austin for two days before spotting the sign. It was on a entrance door at the main lobby. I had come in through the parking garage and had no idea the place was posted.

Nice post by the way. I agree with it.

This hasn't happened to me yet (that I know of)... However, I think in your example you did not break the law, becasue you did not "receive notice" under 30.06. The form of the notice (language, letter height) is specified, but also that you must receive that notice, then remain on the premises with a gun. You didn't.

[hangfour]

Maybe undercover LEO or off-duty. Otherwise, us CHLers can't carry there and it is stupid to do so. If caught you are in heap of trouble. Bye Bye CHL, maybe bye bye firearms for ever!

Ditto!!!