4 Hour CHL?
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4 Hour CHL?
Hey guys! Been a long time since I've posted here and admittedly, I haven't kept up with the changes to CHL over the last few months. There is a guy advertising on the radio in Corpus Christi that he can provide the necessary CHL training in 4 hours. Did the classroom requirement change recently or is this guy a bandit instructor?
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Re: 4 Hour CHL?
Teaching the UTAH Class most likely, get the UTAH license (until the new UTAH law goes into effect).
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Re: 4 Hour CHL?
10 hours of instruction are still required by law for initial licensure, and 4 hours for renewals. This guy is probably a Utah instructor--the list of Utah instructors shows four in the 361 area code.
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Re: 4 Hour CHL?
I've been hearing radio commercials about "four hour chl's" being offered at the gun show and wondered the same thing.
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Re: 4 Hour CHL?
I saw a poster board advertising 4-hour CHL at the last gun show in GRB. I was thinking UTAH, but still had my concerns about that path.
From the previous post - are they changing the law in Utah or here in Texas to hinder this setup?
From the previous post - are they changing the law in Utah or here in Texas to hinder this setup?
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Re: 4 Hour CHL?
Utah just made it necessary for a non resident applicant to 1st have a CFP/CHL/CCW whatever a state calls it from their home state prior to getting a Utah CFP. This only applies to States that have reciprocity with Utah such as Texas, this wouldn't apply to a resident of a state such as California, which doesn't recognize any other States permits.05RKClass wrote:I saw a poster board advertising 4-hour CHL at the last gun show in GRB. I was thinking UTAH, but still had my concerns about that path.
From the previous post - are they changing the law in Utah or here in Texas to hinder this setup?
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Utah has now passed legislation that as of May 1, 2011, you must have a resident license from your state before you can get a Utah license. So, if your legal residence is Texas, then you will be required to hold a current and valid Texas CHL or you will not be able to get a Utah license. Those that already have a Utah license and no Texas license, you will have until Dec. 31, 2010 to renew your existing Utah license. After that date, you will be required to hold a residence license from your state first.
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Did you mean Dec. 31, 2012?Keith B wrote:Utah has now passed legislation that as of May 1, 2011, you must have a resident license from your state before you can get a Utah license. So, if your legal residence is Texas, then you will be required to hold a current and valid Texas CHL or you will not be able to get a Utah license. Those that already have a Utah license and no Texas license, you will have until Dec. 31, 2010 to renew your existing Utah license. After that date, you will be required to hold a residence license from your state first.
Unless someone has a time machine I can borrow the 2010 is going to be a problem.
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Sorry, typo. I meant 2011 (end of this year.)Rebel wrote:Did you mean Dec. 31, 2012?Keith B wrote:Utah has now passed legislation that as of May 1, 2011, you must have a resident license from your state before you can get a Utah license. So, if your legal residence is Texas, then you will be required to hold a current and valid Texas CHL or you will not be able to get a Utah license. Those that already have a Utah license and no Texas license, you will have until Dec. 31, 2010 to renew your existing Utah license. After that date, you will be required to hold a residence license from your state first.
Unless someone has a time machine I can borrow the 2010 is going to be a problem.
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Just to clarify,Keith B wrote:Sorry, typo. I meant 2011 (end of this year.)Rebel wrote:Did you mean Dec. 31, 2012?Keith B wrote:Utah has now passed legislation that as of May 1, 2011, you must have a resident license from your state before you can get a Utah license. So, if your legal residence is Texas, then you will be required to hold a current and valid Texas CHL or you will not be able to get a Utah license. Those that already have a Utah license and no Texas license, you will have until Dec. 31, 2010 to renew your existing Utah license. After that date, you will be required to hold a residence license from your state first.
Unless someone has a time machine I can borrow the 2010 is going to be a problem.
Taken from Crossfire in Utah solved thread
Effective May 10, 2011, New Non-Resident Utah CFP applicants will have to include a copy of their current resident permit to qualify for a Utah CFP.
Effective Jan 1, 2012, Non-Resident RENEWAL applicants will also have to submit a copy of their current resident permit.
Re: 4 Hour CHL?
OK, May 10 vs. May 1, and Dec 31 is still the last day to renew without a resident CHL from your state.
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Re: 4 Hour CHL?
I love it! it means all those who chose to get a Utah license because it was faster will now have to do the Texas class anyway.
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Re: 4 Hour CHL?
And, maybe now the Four-Hour Gent won't be so bellicose.
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Re: 4 Hour CHL?
The "4 Hour CHL" is false advertising because Utah doesn't issue a CHL. If the "4 Hour CHL" guys are a real problem, the answer isn't new laws in Texas. The remedy already exists for deceptive trade practices.
I'm tempted to offer a three hour concealed carry class. I'm not a Utah instructor, so the new Utah law doesn't affect me, but I am certified to teach a class that satisfies the training requirement for at least one state that has reciprocity with Texas.
I'm tempted to offer a three hour concealed carry class. I'm not a Utah instructor, so the new Utah law doesn't affect me, but I am certified to teach a class that satisfies the training requirement for at least one state that has reciprocity with Texas.
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There was a large banner at the Fort Worth show today stating 4 hour classes with no written test, no range requirement, and $10 renewal. Two ladies sitting behind the table. Didn't see anyone approach the table the several times I passed by. I thought about asking if they had a plan B, but left well enough alone. I probably should do that more often.
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