Help!!! need to know if this sign is legal!!!

[Baytown]

I agree that a CHL holder would not be guility of 30.06, but what about 30.05. If a person receives notice he is not wanted on a property and enters anyway, that would be Crim. Tres.

Would that sign not be notice to those with guns that they are not wanted on property and therefore in violation of 30.05.

Not saying I agree with it, just a question.

Glenn

[GrillKing]

I believe 30.05 has wording that specifically excludes 30.05 to used solely for use against carrying under CHL statutes. Carrying w/o a CHL would be against the law anyway so a 30.05 has no meaning to carrying with or without a license. It is simply for criminal trespass. Only 30.06 applies to criminal tresspass by a CHL while carrying.

Of course, I'm not an attorney so this is a lay opinion and worth exactly what you paid for it....

[Charles L. Cotton]

I believe 30.05 has wording that specifically excludes 30.05 to used solely for use against carrying under CHL statutes.

You're right, but remember the scenario we are discussing; i.e. the pistol is locked in the trunk of the car. If, and that's a big if, you are not "carrying" pursuant to your CHL under that fact pattern, then the protection of 30.05(f) will not be a defense to prosecution.

This is one example why I personally would never agree that my CHL would be inapplicable to such a scenario.

Regards,
Chas.

[GrillKing]

Charles, I agree. I was referring to a 30.05 sign only. I had gotten off the 30.06 thread.

Apologies.

[Charles L. Cotton]

Gary:
I got confused too. I was thinking we were on the parking lot thread also. Oh well, I'll do better next time.

Regards,
Chas.

[ForbidInjustice]

I haven't been to Putt-Putt in a while, but I sure will check that out and see if it's still posted. NO, it is not a legal sign, and you have a clear defense to the prosecution should you ever end up charged with a UCW. The penal code is clear when it says "identical to the following".

If you don't see that huge, tacky 30.06 sign in contrasting colours and one-inch block lettering, carry your weapon in. You can't miss that huge ugly sign. It's ugly so businesses won't post it.

If I had a business, I would have a huge sign outdoors similar to a "no smoking" sign, but instead of a cigarette crossed out in the middle, it would read "30.06".

[mr.stuart]

I see many 30.06 signs.What I do not see are many signs telling criminals armed with guns to keep out.I do not see signs on schools telling sex offenders to keep out.So people who pass an F.B.I. background check are not allowed,but all others are welcome?

[ForbidInjustice]

I'm just throwing things out there as a businessman myself, but maybe these people post the signs to create the illusion that they're doing all they can to promote a safe environment? However, the point you make is solid.

It would be interesting to know the types of businesses that are sporting the 30.06 signs, and the owner's logic behind it. They might as well just frisk people at the door, because it's a sure thing that plenty of criminals go in there strapped.