Dog biting your dog?

CHL discussions that do not fit into more specific topics

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton

User avatar

Paladin
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 6575
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:02 pm
Location: DFW

#16

Post by Paladin »

bburgi wrote:FYI, I saw an episode of COPS where a woman intentionally let her rotweiler out of the house knowing it would attack the animal control officer at the scene. She was charged with assault with a deadly weapon.
Was that a while back? If so I think saw that one. The one I saw had the animal control officer not especially prepared and freaking out, but I know my response would have been a lot different.
JOIN NRA TODAY!, NRA Benefactor Life, TSRA Defender Life, Gun Owners of America Life, SAF, VCDL Member
LTC/SSC Instructor, NRA Certified Instructor, CRSO
The last hope of human liberty in this world rests on us. -Thomas Jefferson

bburgi
Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 128
Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:44 pm

#17

Post by bburgi »

Now that I think about it, I don't think it was on COPS. It was on some show called "When good animals go bad". I just saw it recently. It may have been the same attack though- the office had no weapons or deterrents on her. She was basically helpless except for a neighbor who came over and beat the dog off with big stick.
User avatar

Paladin
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 6575
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:02 pm
Location: DFW

#18

Post by Paladin »

Whether we saw the same one or not, it boggles my mine that an animal control officer wouldn't be prepared for something like that.
JOIN NRA TODAY!, NRA Benefactor Life, TSRA Defender Life, Gun Owners of America Life, SAF, VCDL Member
LTC/SSC Instructor, NRA Certified Instructor, CRSO
The last hope of human liberty in this world rests on us. -Thomas Jefferson

KBCraig
Banned
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 5251
Joined: Fri May 06, 2005 3:32 am
Location: Texarkana

#19

Post by KBCraig »

bburgi wrote:Now that I think about it, I don't think it was on COPS. It was on some show called "When good animals go bad". I just saw it recently. It may have been the same attack though- the office had no weapons or deterrents on her. She was basically helpless except for a neighbor who came over and beat the dog off with big stick.
Lots of shows use the same videos. That sounds like one I recall, where a big fat very crazy white trash woman set the dog on animal control. The animal control officer was a very petite young black lady, and damaged her hand pretty badly.

Sound like the same one?

Kevin

bburgi
Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 128
Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:44 pm

#20

Post by bburgi »

KBCraig wrote:Lots of shows use the same videos. That sounds like one I recall, where a big fat very crazy white trash woman set the dog on animal control. The animal control officer was a very petite young black lady, and damaged her hand pretty badly.

Sound like the same one?

Kevin
Yep, spot on.
User avatar

flintknapper
Banned
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 4962
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:40 pm
Location: Deep East Texas

#21

Post by flintknapper »

KBCraig wrote:
bburgi wrote:Now that I think about it, I don't think it was on COPS. It was on some show called "When good animals go bad". I just saw it recently. It may have been the same attack though- the office had no weapons or deterrents on her. She was basically helpless except for a neighbor who came over and beat the dog off with big stick.
Lots of shows use the same videos. That sounds like one I recall, where a big fat very crazy white trash woman set the dog on animal control. The animal control officer was a very petite young black lady, and damaged her hand pretty badly.

Sound like the same one?

Kevin

That one's been around a few years. In that incident the dog was a pit bull, not a rotty. Even though the attack resulted in her being bitten on the chest and hand, it was not what I would call a "committed" attack by the animal.

The control officer responded to the attack in about the poorest way possible. Their was a decided lack of training, or she panicked and just couldn't use it. I feel certain she found a new job soon after that unfortunate event.

We can only hope that the irresponsible owner of that animal was prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Spartans ask not how many, but where!

40FIVER
Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 145
Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:50 pm
Location: Archer City

#22

Post by 40FIVER »

txinvestigator wrote:
You could have called animal control or the police and had the person cited.

That said, we should choose carefully on which hills we are prepared to die. My ego would want me stand my ground in such a situation. After all, my rights....his obligations. However, forcing my rights in this situation and possibly causing the incident to escalate is not a wise choice.

If you felt harm was immminent then you should defend yourself against the dog in whatever manner you believe best. Removing yourself from the area before it gets to that point is better, IMO.

Just food for thought.
I think I understand what you were saying in response to the post, but would this be considered giving in and letting the other guy win?
Until someone stands up to the irresponsible dog owner and he (BG) receives what he deserves, he has winning.

By removing ourselves from places we have the right to be in, instead of defending our right to be there, is not good.

This is not a flame, just food for thought, as well.

40FIVER

switch
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 528
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:06 am
Location: Venus, TX
Contact:

aggressive dog

#23

Post by switch »

I prefer pepper spray. Think about that dog owner taking Fido home, in his car. ;-)

I'd be careful about shooting a dog. A dog lover prosecutor/jury/judge may be hard to convince that you were/should have been in fear of your life.

Rex B
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 3615
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:30 pm
Location: DFW

Spray the dog

#24

Post by Rex B »

An over aggressive dog, friendly or otherwise, needs to be controlled. If the owner dowsn't do it, you are good to go with spray. Pepper spray is fine if lesser deterrents don't work.

When that owner released his dog intentionally, that was an asault, pure and simple. It's pepper spray time for the dog. And if the owner has a problem with it, it's 911 time. You can have the officer define 'assault' to the jerk. Perhaps the officer, having seen your CHL, would point out to the jerk that his dog could have been legally shot dead, instead.
-----------
“Sometimes there is no alternative to uncertainty except to await the arrival of more and better data.” C. Wunsch

robert_de_niro
Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 59
Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:00 pm
Location: Amarillo
Contact:

#25

Post by robert_de_niro »

My best friend has a landscaping business and one particular customer has a doberman behind a puny 4 or 5 foot fence. The owner never keeps the dog chained or locked up and when my friend mows the adjacent lawn, the dog tries to leap the fence (and he is usually succesful) and come after my buddy. One day the dog got out and made a full charge at my friend. He's CHL and had his glock 22 with an IWB holster. The dog went for his leg and got my buddy by the boot. He said that before he could draw on the dog (who was, by the way snarling and had its ears flat) the owner called it back. He told that owner that if that happened again he would, and I quote, "Take care of it for you, and you won't see that dog again." Of course the owner got all upset. About 4 weeks later the dog came at him again, full speed and snarling. The owner, watching, was laughing. RIP Rover... RIP.
Image

Rex B
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 3615
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:30 pm
Location: DFW

Good Job!

#26

Post by Rex B »

Good for him!

I'd like to have seen the dog owner's face when Fido caught some lead.
I know the dog was just doing what he was trained to do, and in this case he's a victim. That's a shame.

Did your friend have to talk to the police afterwards?
-----------
“Sometimes there is no alternative to uncertainty except to await the arrival of more and better data.” C. Wunsch

robert_de_niro
Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 59
Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:00 pm
Location: Amarillo
Contact:

Re: Good Job!

#27

Post by robert_de_niro »

Rex B wrote:Good for him!

I'd like to have seen the dog owner's face when Fido caught some lead.
I know the dog was just doing what he was trained to do, and in this case he's a victim. That's a shame.

Did your friend have to talk to the police afterwards?
Not sure on that. He's a paramedic and while he was on a call he asked an officer (between the first attack and the second) if he would be justified in shooting the dog, and the officer said not only would he be legal, but he would issue a citation to the owner!! I will ask next time we talk and post an answer...
Image
Post Reply

Return to “General Texas CHL Discussion”