now that guy is a bone headChris B. wrote:Last year about a month after Ike came through I was at Academy looking at guns. This dude walks up to the counter with a fanny pack and asks to see a pistol out of the case. The associate put it on the counter and the dude pulls out his gun to compare the two. The associate's jaw almost hit the counter and told the guy that he could get in serious trouble for that. The guy responded "Don't worry, I have a CHL" and pulled it out to show him. Needless to say he was told to leave the store. I tried to avoid the parking lot for a while after that... NOT a good move.
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YYYYYep..the perfect example.USA1 wrote:now that guy is a bone headChris B. wrote:Last year about a month after Ike came through I was at Academy looking at guns. This dude walks up to the counter with a fanny pack and asks to see a pistol out of the case. The associate put it on the counter and the dude pulls out his gun to compare the two. The associate's jaw almost hit the counter and told the guy that he could get in serious trouble for that. The guy responded "Don't worry, I have a CHL" and pulled it out to show him. Needless to say he was told to leave the store. I tried to avoid the parking lot for a while after that... NOT a good move.
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I was shocked to see a ton of boneheads in my CHL class. I was muzzle swept about 5 times by the people next to me, and I was really shocked by the questions asked in the class. Here was one, Now that I have my CHL can I go out looking to stop crime in other neighborhoods?? The instructor handled it well, he said we were "Lambs with Stingers".
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I was amazed at how many people failed to insert the magazine, chamber a round, lock it open, and then eject the magazine in front of the class. One student got kicked from the range and denied their RENEWEL for swinging the gun side to side after it jammed and then told the instructor that is was not loaded as he grabbed her arm and directed it back downrange. His response "unloaded guns kill people everyday". Can't say it much better than that.
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My wife's grandfather is the biggest bone head in the world when it comes to guns. I live on an Air Force base (big signs out front, that say no firearms.) mine are registered on base so I can have them in housing, but I do not carry them around on base (not aloud).
So he comes to visit, I tell him leave your guns at home. he says he has a CHL and it is fine, I tell him this is federal property and it is not fine. So he gets here and we are checking in the base hotel and they give their spill about no smoking, pets, or guns, and he pulles his snuby .38 out and says "so I can't have this" I wanted to kill him.
Another time we were at the wife's uncle's ranch in muenster TX and we all were OCing, just for wild animals and what not. He drops his colt 45 on the brick ground while screwing with it. (luckily no bang). then he decides to set it on the table that everybody is sitting at. My 16 yr old brother-in-law noticed that it was pointed straight at him so he moved a candle in front of it and slid to the side a little bit. wifes Grandfather noticed he moved and re aimed the gun at him(joking...yes with a loaded gun). My Father inlaw, hates the grandfather and the 16 Brother in law is his youngest ( very protective), so he grabs my gun (I let him have it), racks slide, sends chambered round flying and points gun at grandfathers head, tells him to stand up grab his gun and put it in his car. He was livid, I thought for sure the Grandfather was going to die.
there are a few others with him, and I cannot even tell you how many times he has muzzle grazed me. I hate being around him at all but even less when he is armed. He belives unloaded guns are unloaded. I am fired up just typing this. sorry for the long read.
So he comes to visit, I tell him leave your guns at home. he says he has a CHL and it is fine, I tell him this is federal property and it is not fine. So he gets here and we are checking in the base hotel and they give their spill about no smoking, pets, or guns, and he pulles his snuby .38 out and says "so I can't have this" I wanted to kill him.
Another time we were at the wife's uncle's ranch in muenster TX and we all were OCing, just for wild animals and what not. He drops his colt 45 on the brick ground while screwing with it. (luckily no bang). then he decides to set it on the table that everybody is sitting at. My 16 yr old brother-in-law noticed that it was pointed straight at him so he moved a candle in front of it and slid to the side a little bit. wifes Grandfather noticed he moved and re aimed the gun at him(joking...yes with a loaded gun). My Father inlaw, hates the grandfather and the 16 Brother in law is his youngest ( very protective), so he grabs my gun (I let him have it), racks slide, sends chambered round flying and points gun at grandfathers head, tells him to stand up grab his gun and put it in his car. He was livid, I thought for sure the Grandfather was going to die.
there are a few others with him, and I cannot even tell you how many times he has muzzle grazed me. I hate being around him at all but even less when he is armed. He belives unloaded guns are unloaded. I am fired up just typing this. sorry for the long read.
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Coffeyc , thanks for sharing. I'll have to say he's an idiot. People that has such a wanton disregard for gun safety, is a danger both to himself, and all around him when he has a gun. I pray he doesn't shoot somebody because of his pranks.
What he did is inexcusable. I feel your pain.
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Good stories, sure there is more.
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I agree for the most part. I don't have a problem telling someone I trust that I have a CHL. It's just part of the evangelism process. If I preach the value of a CHL, it only makes sense that I would have one. However, I am very tight-lipped about how and where I carry. I'll only discuss that with someone who has (or is getting) a CHL and needs some advice. As to whether I'm carrying at any given time, I'm even more careful about that. I'll only revel that in situations where I feel it's absolutely necessary (and a traffic stop is not one of them). In short, the only time I'll discuss CHL matters is when I'm trying to win someone over to our side, or when I'm trying to give someone advice. My sidearm is not a toy, it's not a curiosity, it's serious business.03Lightningrocks wrote:I believe the difference is in how it is being brought up. If someone is saying they are carrying to brag and act like a tough guy or big shot, they are definitely a BONEHEAD. If it is just coming up in a conversation while talking weapons for one reason or the other, but not in a bragging way, that is very different...IMHO. I ran into a guy at a Wally World while looking for ammo. We spoke briefly about lack of ammo and how it makes it hard to get practice. Somehow the short conversation came around to him mentioning he wanted to get his CHL and he ask if I had one. I said yes... The conversation then turned into ways of carrying...the gentleman was wanting to learn more about it all so I spoke of different carry methods. He then asked if I was carrying because he could not tell if I was. I said yes as I patted on my three clock and said it was hiding under my love handle. Nothing in the whole situation was loud or bragging.... Just one human trying to share info with another. I sent him to this sight, by the way.
That brings us to the story a friend once related to me. It seems a friend of hers (I never met the guy) had recently gotten his CHL, was very excited about it, and was bragging to his friends. Well, the two of them were alone at church together,a and he offered to take it out and show it to her. She said sure, and he proceeded to draw from his 12 o'clock and hand her the gun. I couldn't believe the story when I heard it. Bragging about his CHL, carrying at 12 o'clock, and passing around a loaded gun all seem most unwise, and taking it out without cause is certainly illegal. Can you imagine if he'd been caught? He could've lost his CHL within a month of getting it issued!
Recently I found out that one of my friends who has knowledge of my CHL has been telling my other friends about it. He's interested in shooting, so we've talked about self-defense, CHL, etc. I've also taken him to the range, so he's seen me unholster/reholster before. I always thought it was understood that he should keep quiet about it, but I guess I wasn't clear. You can imagine my surprise when a group of us were having dinner at another friend's house, and she exclaimed, "So, I hear you carry a gun with you! Do you have it now? Can I see it? I'm not sure I like you bringing a gun into my house."
During my CHL class, our instructor told us a couple of good ones about would-be CHL'ers who failed their range qualifications for safety violations. One guy showed up for his qualification drunk - twice. Since showing up drunk was unsafe, the instructor failed him - twice. No CHL for that guy. Another student came in for the qualification with his gun in a triangle bag. While still at the front desk, the instructor asked him what he planned to shoot. The guy replied that he had a Glock 9mm, then laid the bag on the desk and unzipped it to show to the instructor. This was at the Bullet Trap, where most of the employees OC. Well, sure enough, while the instructor was yelling for the guy to drop the gun, another employee had cleared leather. He reprimanded the guy and failed him. I guess he learned his lesson though, because he came back later for his second attempt and passed.
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I've not met any. My brother has had his CHL for maybe ten years, and I didn't even know about it until a few months ago.
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Not so much with CHL folks but there is always that guy at he gunshop or the range who can't help but rant about how he'd handle anbody that crossed him wrong, typically with grisly details, at least as far as his limited vocab could afford. And sure enough that's usually the same bucket head that knows everything, better than everybody else, and is more than willing to make sure you and the rest of south Texas knows it by shouting it at the top of his lungs.Embalmo wrote:Guys,
I haven't met a bone-head with a CHL yet, but I've certainly met bone-heads with guns. Have any of you guys seen an idiot with a CHL announce out loud that he was carrying, or brag about his plastic out loud. My circle of CHL friends are all wise enough to keep it in their pocket and keep their mouths shut in public, but I would love to hear some stories about those who aren't so wise.
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THe only bone headed CHL'r I have seen was in a Wal Mart parking lot. Apparently these two knot heads had just got the plastic in and were getting ready for the maiden Wally World Walk. They had parked next to each other and obviously knew one another. I pull up in the space to the right of the second pick up and both idiots are near the rear standing between truck 1 and truck 2. I can hear the conversation as I parked and got out of my car. "Yeah I just got my card in,, look at what I carry,,. Stupid #2... I got mine in too, I got my kel tec in my pocket see!!!!!.
I walked up to both maitaining a safe distance. (xcop, x swat, not my first parade), and informed the two the whole theory behind CHL was concealed. I told them it would proably be in thier best interest to holster the weapons as it was not a great idea to be flashing iron right under the surveillance camera.
I dont think I was the only one that noticed. As I walked out of Wally World a DPS unit and MCSO were arriving.... I wish I knew the rest of the story. Might have been the short length of time between issuance and suspension in history.
I walked up to both maitaining a safe distance. (xcop, x swat, not my first parade), and informed the two the whole theory behind CHL was concealed. I told them it would proably be in thier best interest to holster the weapons as it was not a great idea to be flashing iron right under the surveillance camera.
I dont think I was the only one that noticed. As I walked out of Wally World a DPS unit and MCSO were arriving.... I wish I knew the rest of the story. Might have been the short length of time between issuance and suspension in history.
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This past Saturday my ex told me that she had just gone to Starbucks that morning (She needs to move into their lobby, she lives there). It was early in the morning and she was startled at the loud conversation she heard being struck behind her. In essence she said that some guy was loudly exclaiming to his companion that it was "great to be legally packing heat now".
She said that she immediately thought of me, and I asked her not to compare me with that "caliber" of individual.
She said that she immediately thought of me, and I asked her not to compare me with that "caliber" of individual.
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To me, that's a real quick indicater of maturity level. Guys like this either think they're bulletproof now or they have no idea of the potential target they're placeing on their backs. Like a 16 yr old kid who's been given a brand new Corvette, all you can do is hope they live long enough to learn how to respect the responsability they have just signed up for and also hope nobody else gets hurt in the mean time.Purplehood wrote:This past Saturday my ex told me that she had just gone to Starbucks that morning (She needs to move into their lobby, she lives there). It was early in the morning and she was startled at the loud conversation she heard being struck behind her. In essence she said that some guy was loudly exclaiming to his companion that it was "great to be legally packing heat now".
She said that she immediately thought of me, and I asked her not to compare me with that "caliber" of individual.
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