Lubbock's violent crime wave
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DaveT
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Been following this thread witrh interest as I am another Lubbockite... or former Lubbockite. I lived there in 77 and 78, and still only live 35 miles away. Go there a lot because my sife's sister lives there and a lot of my medical visits with the VA are there.
I know quite a few Lubock PD officers, trained with their motor unit several years back when the Harley dealer was trying to get them to switch from Kaws, we used my new Harley police bike for the demo.
I would offer this as to the recent crime 'wave' in Lubbuck: Is it really any different than what is happening to any city of comparable size ?
Society in general is changing rapidly, and I believe Lubbock's problems are the same being experienced everywhere. Too much welfare, too many illigal immigrants settling in for the benefits, and not enough public money available for more police officers and equipment. Look around the community where you live..... I'm sure that sounds familiar. Talk to your local officers, they will most often express the same thoughts.
The times are changing folks....... and that is probably why each of us is dedicated to concealed carry, arming ourselves and being ready.
I know quite a few Lubock PD officers, trained with their motor unit several years back when the Harley dealer was trying to get them to switch from Kaws, we used my new Harley police bike for the demo.
I would offer this as to the recent crime 'wave' in Lubbuck: Is it really any different than what is happening to any city of comparable size ?
Society in general is changing rapidly, and I believe Lubbock's problems are the same being experienced everywhere. Too much welfare, too many illigal immigrants settling in for the benefits, and not enough public money available for more police officers and equipment. Look around the community where you live..... I'm sure that sounds familiar. Talk to your local officers, they will most often express the same thoughts.
The times are changing folks....... and that is probably why each of us is dedicated to concealed carry, arming ourselves and being ready.
Going to Lubbock this weekend for Fathers day to visit my sister and LPDO brother-in-law. My parents are coming in to help spoil my niece...
1. I just got my CHL this week. It will be my first opportunity to carry.
2. I get to put my Hardigg case to use. See how well Southwest handles firearms...
My BIL has been telling me some pretty wild stories about all the crap going on up there. When I mentioned that we had a meth bust just down the street from us in a rather decent neighborhood in Austin, he gave me a very firm warning. DON'T OPEN THE DOOR WITHOUT YOUR GUN! And not without checking the window first...
1. I just got my CHL this week. It will be my first opportunity to carry.
2. I get to put my Hardigg case to use. See how well Southwest handles firearms...
My BIL has been telling me some pretty wild stories about all the crap going on up there. When I mentioned that we had a meth bust just down the street from us in a rather decent neighborhood in Austin, he gave me a very firm warning. DON'T OPEN THE DOOR WITHOUT YOUR GUN! And not without checking the window first...
AJKAHR, I hear tell that Southwest handles flying with a firearm very well. I can't speak from personal experience, but a few friends have said their experience was positive.
I spend an inordinate amount of time visiting friends in Southwest Oklahoma, the former meth capitol of the world. After the murder of a trooper who stopped to check out a van that turned out to be a rolling drug lab, LE got real serious about it. It isn't fixed, but it has gotten better. I always carry, but I exercise more caution in certain parts of that area than I feel is necessary in downtown Dallas at night. I have just *almost* had to push the car to avoid certain gas stations in certain towns after dark. I won't mention the specific town, but stay out of Comanche unless you have business there.
Anyway, you have to find something to laugh at, or you'll go to tears sometimes... or so says a friend. He's doing P&P in one of the cities out that way. He says that the offenders he supervises are generally not rocket scientists, and most of them would continue to find ways to get themselves into trouble if the illicit drug trade simply evaporated at sunrise tomorrow.
Case in point: He has an offender come in one day who is on about five years of suspended sentence. Take a wild guess why. This offender is kind of a wierdo, which is par for the course in that office. The guy is making his scheduled meetings, but this one day, something seems funny about him. Well, funnier than usual, anyway. It's time to UA the dude.
So, buddy of mine, after careful deliberation (of about 4/5 of a second), selects the TesTstik labeled "MET." (a TesTstik is like a pregnancy test for drugs, and "MET" is Methamphetamine in case anybody doesn't know) He directs the offender to the restroom, hands him the specimen cup, and gives him the standard speech. The offender, acting more nervous than usual, takes the cup, places it on the tank lid of the toilet, and begins the process of supplying the specimen. The offender is quite displeased that my buddy refuses to leave the doorway of the bathroom. Various allegations are leveled regarding the orientation, ancestry, and general character of my friend. He replies that the offender is welcome to perform this test in the presence of the county jailer if he does not wish to do it in his present location. The offender acquiesces.
Now, I don't know if you guys have ever tried to use the toilet while carrying your gun, but it's tricky business to do everything standing up. If you use a stall, it's relatively easy to manage because of the added privacy. If you try it with more public porcelain, you are reasonably likely to expose a good deal more than you intended to because of the added weight on your belt. You may be asking whether the offender was armed. No, he was not. Fortunately.
What he was carrying turned out to be even more fun. I now have it on good authority that if you happen to be carrying two and a half pounds of crystal meth in your pockets and you attempt to use the facilities while standing, particularly under the watchful eye of your PO, it may well happen that you lose control of your waistband. It may also happen that when your laden trousers hit the tile, the bags which formerly contained the aforementioned narcotics split open and spill the two and a half pounds of crystal meth all over the bathroom floor. It may also be that your ordinarily laid back, fun loving PO (he's about as fun loving as a coiled rattlesnake, but that's not important) will become rather annoyed at the prospect of having to sweep up every single tiny bit of your illicit substance, and he may just want to take you to jail right then and there. Who would've thought?
Now, as if this poor officer friend of mine hadn't dealt with enough, he had to search the offender's car. And who might have suspected that he would find yet another rolling meth lab sitting right there in the parking lot shared by the courthouse, the police department, and the corrections offices. At least they didn't have to walk far to find the judge. The subsequent search of the offenders home revealed an even more extensive involvement with drugs (more than just meth, as it happens) than was previously known to exist in that particular county. Oh, and the best part: They walked to the offender's house. It was three blocks away.
You folks in Lubbock are in for some real fun before this problem gets solved.
I spend an inordinate amount of time visiting friends in Southwest Oklahoma, the former meth capitol of the world. After the murder of a trooper who stopped to check out a van that turned out to be a rolling drug lab, LE got real serious about it. It isn't fixed, but it has gotten better. I always carry, but I exercise more caution in certain parts of that area than I feel is necessary in downtown Dallas at night. I have just *almost* had to push the car to avoid certain gas stations in certain towns after dark. I won't mention the specific town, but stay out of Comanche unless you have business there.
Anyway, you have to find something to laugh at, or you'll go to tears sometimes... or so says a friend. He's doing P&P in one of the cities out that way. He says that the offenders he supervises are generally not rocket scientists, and most of them would continue to find ways to get themselves into trouble if the illicit drug trade simply evaporated at sunrise tomorrow.
Case in point: He has an offender come in one day who is on about five years of suspended sentence. Take a wild guess why. This offender is kind of a wierdo, which is par for the course in that office. The guy is making his scheduled meetings, but this one day, something seems funny about him. Well, funnier than usual, anyway. It's time to UA the dude.
So, buddy of mine, after careful deliberation (of about 4/5 of a second), selects the TesTstik labeled "MET." (a TesTstik is like a pregnancy test for drugs, and "MET" is Methamphetamine in case anybody doesn't know) He directs the offender to the restroom, hands him the specimen cup, and gives him the standard speech. The offender, acting more nervous than usual, takes the cup, places it on the tank lid of the toilet, and begins the process of supplying the specimen. The offender is quite displeased that my buddy refuses to leave the doorway of the bathroom. Various allegations are leveled regarding the orientation, ancestry, and general character of my friend. He replies that the offender is welcome to perform this test in the presence of the county jailer if he does not wish to do it in his present location. The offender acquiesces.
Now, I don't know if you guys have ever tried to use the toilet while carrying your gun, but it's tricky business to do everything standing up. If you use a stall, it's relatively easy to manage because of the added privacy. If you try it with more public porcelain, you are reasonably likely to expose a good deal more than you intended to because of the added weight on your belt. You may be asking whether the offender was armed. No, he was not. Fortunately.
What he was carrying turned out to be even more fun. I now have it on good authority that if you happen to be carrying two and a half pounds of crystal meth in your pockets and you attempt to use the facilities while standing, particularly under the watchful eye of your PO, it may well happen that you lose control of your waistband. It may also happen that when your laden trousers hit the tile, the bags which formerly contained the aforementioned narcotics split open and spill the two and a half pounds of crystal meth all over the bathroom floor. It may also be that your ordinarily laid back, fun loving PO (he's about as fun loving as a coiled rattlesnake, but that's not important) will become rather annoyed at the prospect of having to sweep up every single tiny bit of your illicit substance, and he may just want to take you to jail right then and there. Who would've thought?
Now, as if this poor officer friend of mine hadn't dealt with enough, he had to search the offender's car. And who might have suspected that he would find yet another rolling meth lab sitting right there in the parking lot shared by the courthouse, the police department, and the corrections offices. At least they didn't have to walk far to find the judge. The subsequent search of the offenders home revealed an even more extensive involvement with drugs (more than just meth, as it happens) than was previously known to exist in that particular county. Oh, and the best part: They walked to the offender's house. It was three blocks away.
You folks in Lubbock are in for some real fun before this problem gets solved.
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smurf, please remember the 10 yr old daughter rule.
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I/we had the experience of living in Amarillo for a few months. The degree of threat from criminal assault was highly related to the area of town. Eastern Amarillo Blvd was a place that made me real happy to have a CHL, but the Southwestern part of town was much less so.
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