"Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 1540
- Joined: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:41 pm
- Location: La Vernia
- Contact:
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
I like to think, that had I been close enough, that I'd have gone into attack mode even unarmed. Bean him with a couple of books, kick him in the ..knee.., and apply various other thoughtful gestures of affection. Wonder what he would have thought of the idea then.
Course, very likely I wouldn't have been following proper protocol.
School Intruder Protocol
1. Run in circles, scream and shout.
2. If ineffective, scream and shout, then run in circles.
Course, very likely I wouldn't have been following proper protocol.
School Intruder Protocol
1. Run in circles, scream and shout.
2. If ineffective, scream and shout, then run in circles.
Jay E Morris,
Guardian Firearm Training, NRA Pistol, LTC < retired from all
NRA Lifetime, TSRA Lifetime
NRA Recruiter (link)
Guardian Firearm Training, NRA Pistol, LTC < retired from all
NRA Lifetime, TSRA Lifetime
NRA Recruiter (link)
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 2416
- Joined: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:44 am
- Location: Austin, Texas
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
Agreed. Had I been in close proximity to this moron and kids were in the immediate vicinity, he would have taken the nearest large blunt object available to the head at my first opportunity. I don't know any good teacher that would stand by and watch kids get shot, given the opportunity to intervene.jmorris wrote:I like to think, that had I been close enough, that I'd have gone into attack mode even unarmed. Bean him with a couple of books, kick him in the ..knee.., and apply various other thoughtful gestures of affection. Wonder what he would have thought of the idea then.
Course, very likely I wouldn't have been following proper protocol.
School Intruder Protocol
1. Run in circles, scream and shout.
2. If ineffective, scream and shout, then run in circles.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 2807
- Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:36 am
- Location: Houston
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
What a bunch of morons! I can't even say on this forum what I want to about the ---- who pulled this stunt. "Disciplined?" The blithering idiot administrators responsible for this, this -- I can't even say it here -- should be fired and have criminal charges brought against them.
If I'd been there, the stupid "actor" who went along with this insanity would probably be dead. There's plenty of other things laying around in a school besides guns that can be used as lethal weapons.
If I'd been there, the stupid "actor" who went along with this insanity would probably be dead. There's plenty of other things laying around in a school besides guns that can be used as lethal weapons.
Last edited by bdickens on Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Byron Dickens
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 1001
- Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:44 pm
- Location: Houston
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
Well, I'm sure the parents in that town are going to be very pleased with the school's emergency policy of "Run and pray for your life." The outcome is likely to be so much better than the "Fire at the center of mass until the threat stops" policy. {/sarcasm]A group of elementary teachers gathered for a workshop at Phillipsburg Early Childhood Learning Center got a shock Friday when a gunman burst into the facility library.
The man, yelling obscenities, squeezed off several shots, prompting those present to run for cover and pray for their lives.
[snip]
Town police Chief Edward Mirenda also praised teachers' performance, saying, "Teachers did a great job and reacted as they were trained."
-
- Junior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 20
- Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:40 pm
- Location: Dallas
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
So they were pleased with the teacher's "response" which I assume was to die in an orderly and non-panicked fashion. Amazing that they think of this as a response at all.
NRA Member
TSRA Member
CHL Holder
TSRA Member
CHL Holder
-
- Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 47
- Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:44 pm
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
Somebody should lose their job over that bit of stupidity. Not only could the actor have been killed in self-defense, it conditions people to question whether a deadly situation is real or not.
-
- Member
- Posts in topic: 2
- Posts: 52
- Joined: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:58 pm
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
I believe no matter how the faculty responded, the administrators would have still given plenty and plenty of praise to avoid being neck high in lawsuits. geez.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 274
- Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:20 pm
- Location: Sugar Land, TX
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
I just recovered from heart surgery. I don't think it would be a very good idea to have this kind of "drill" without knowing the medical condition of every person in that room in advance. I think they showed absolutely no commen sence. If someone had used deadly force as a responce and ended the actors life, who would be at fault?
Hank Henry
NRA Instructor / NRA LIFE MEMBER / NRA RANGE SAFETY OFFICER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NRA Instructor / NRA LIFE MEMBER / NRA RANGE SAFETY OFFICER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 1447
- Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:53 pm
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
First it was mall ninjas. Now, school drill ninjas.
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
I can see the wheels, in the heads of the lawyers, smoking!
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
Wouldn't this event be considered a crime since a weapon was exhibited with the intent of creating alarm? So that covers the actor, since the board was involved, doesn't that make them guilty of conspiracy?
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 3147
- Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 5:27 pm
- Location: SE Texas
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
I bet they're getting an overwhelming number of applicants right now.
"If a man breaks in your house, he ain't there for iced tea." Mom & Dad.
The NRA & TSRA are a bargain; they're much cheaper than the cold, dead hands experience.
The NRA & TSRA are a bargain; they're much cheaper than the cold, dead hands experience.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 822
- Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:45 am
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
I wonder what they consider a success ? 10 to 20 pairs of soiled underwear
It is said that if you line up all the cars in the world end-to-end, someone would be stupid enough to try to pass them
-
- Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 191
- Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:34 pm
- Location: Helotes, Texas, USA
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
This is bad and may have had various outcomes - including serious physical and/or emotional injuries to the audience members or to the actor(s). If I am in such an audience, my normal response may be to take out the threat by any means. I don't think any trainer or exercise observer would normally be able to respond in time to stop me. The possible negative consequences of this training need to be discussed, lessons learned documented, and some people held accountable.
Respectfully and Semper Fi,
F. Phil Torres
Colonel of Marines, Retired
Independent Security Contractor
NRA Certified Firearms Instructor
Unarmed Combat Instructor
NRA Life Member
F. Phil Torres
Colonel of Marines, Retired
Independent Security Contractor
NRA Certified Firearms Instructor
Unarmed Combat Instructor
NRA Life Member
Re: "Intruder drill" leaves teachers shaken
WOW! That is truly disgusting! I think Superintendent George Chando should loose his credentials and never work again in education. What a moron! And, what kind of "keystone cops" would actually assist a district in pulling such a stunt? Totally irresponsible!
And they did this to...test the reaction of the staff? Well did the staff act with shear terror and fear? What exactly was the outcome they were expecting?
And they did this to...test the reaction of the staff? Well did the staff act with shear terror and fear? What exactly was the outcome they were expecting?