NcongruNt wrote:I think the stiffener makes a difference in places where you have to drop your pants (like the bathroom).
That raises a question I have never even considered... what do you do with your pistol when you do drop trouw and it's in a public restroom stall where the divider walls don't go all the way to the floor? How do you keep from getting made then?
It depends on the situation. I generally take the far end stall, which is usually a larger handicap stall. I am right-handed, and these examples assume you are right-handed and carrying strong-side. Reverse walls in these examples if you are left-handed. If the wall is to my right, then I can simply drop my pants with the gun holstered, and any view of the gun will be obscured by my pants/leg/toilet. If the the stall is oriented the other way around (wall on your left), then I unholster and place the gun on the toilet paper dispenser (or other suitable surface). Depending on the proximity of the neighboring stalls (or if I'm in a stall other than the one on the far end), I may pull the holster off my belt along with the gun and place both up on the toilet paper dispenser.
One of the important steps of the Wally Walk is to use the bathroom and to prepare beforehand what you will do.
I won't go into the usage of a purse since most of you don't have that option. (We've discussed it on the ladies' thread.)
If the stall has a hook, you could CAREFULLY hang it by the trigger guard, but make sure the safety is on and keep it pointed in a safe direction.
You could also temporarily unholster it & just hold onto it.
I prefer the purse, but that doesn't seem like a good option for many of you here.
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Venus Pax wrote:
If the stall has a hook, you could CAREFULLY hang it by the trigger guard, but make sure the safety is on and keep it pointed in a safe direction.
Actually not a good concept. Recently a LEO had this particular way of dealing with firearms in the bathroom and had a negligent discharge in a courthouse. No one was injured.
He claimed he'd been doing it that way for years. Maybe you get away with it, maybe you don't. If it resulted in one ND it could do so for others.
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I recommend against placing the gun on either the toilet tank or the paper dispenser. It's very easy for it to slide off of the toilet tank and guns have been left behind in the stall. IIRC, there was a thread on packing.org way back about an officer that forgot his Glock.
Regarding using the hook, it is possible for someone outside the stall to reach over the top and remove items from the garment hook. It would usually only get the thief a jacket.
If you feel you must unholster while taking care of business, I suggest letting it rest in the lowered pants.
CodeJockey wrote:I use a smart carry. I simply lower the pants, and as I do that, pull up the smart carry to my mid chest. Works perfectly. and it's easy to get to (easier in fact that normal). This way, I might get caught with my pants down, but I'll still be armed!
ok i have heard of the smart carry but im a big guy and im conserned that wouldnt be comfortable nor would i be able to draw verry fast
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Mike1951 wrote:I'd like to mention a few things to consider.
I recommend against placing the gun on either the toilet tank or the paper dispenser. It's very easy for it to slide off of the toilet tank and guns have been left behind in the stall. IIRC, there was a thread on packing.org way back about an officer that forgot his Glock.
Regarding using the hook, it is possible for someone outside the stall to reach over the top and remove items from the garment hook. It would usually only get the thief a jacket.
If you feel you must unholster while taking care of business, I suggest letting it rest in the lowered pants.
And you surely won't forget it.
+1. And when it's in the lowered pants, the barrel should point at the porcelain throne, not at the door to the john or the stall next door.
"I have two guns. One for each of ya" Doc Holiday
"Out here, due process is a bullet."
"Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave."
"forgiveness is between them and god its my job to arrange the meeting" man on fire
I try not to have to go to restroom which requires the use of sitting down in a stall if I am CCW with and OWB rig. Around town I sometimes use a Maxpedition Jumbo Fatboy .......in tan - so its not the tactical black ;).....and it secures a fullsize handgun with ease.
On a side note: When I first started carrying I had this fear I would be out in public (like at the mall, grocery store) and I would accidentally hit the mag release and a fully loaded mag would hit the floor and rounds would go spilling out everywhere.
5111 wrote:I use an IWB holster so it may make it a little easier. As I lower my pants I tilt the handle inward and then peel down the waistband of my underwear over the handle. I can still easily get to it, but the underwear cover it well enough from prying eyes.
striker55 wrote:I found it pretty hard to pull up my pants, tuck in my shirt without dropping it all to the floor with all that weight.
Agreed! Doing all that at once often looks like this:
9mmGuy wrote:i eat lots of fiber to stay regular. same time every day. never gonna caught with my pants down.
we cant all be so lucky good for you dude
"I have two guns. One for each of ya" Doc Holiday
"Out here, due process is a bullet."
"Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave."
"forgiveness is between them and god its my job to arrange the meeting" man on fire
good for you dude