Louis Farrakhan writes about Joe Horn

[Mike1951]

I 'spect Ms. Falkenburg will be receiving another round of emails!!

[CHL/LEO]

Wrapping houses is vandalism. Not a shooting offense, but vandalism.

Legally and criminally speaking it is Criminal Mischief in Texas.

[txinvestigator]

Wrapping houses is vandalism. Not a shooting offense, but vandalism.

Legally and criminally speaking it is Criminal Mischief in Texas.

And that is a THIN, stretched charge.;

Texas Penal Code
§ 28.03. CRIMINAL MISCHIEF. (a) A person commits an
offense if, without the effective consent of the owner:
(1) he intentionally or knowingly damages or destroys
the tangible property of the owner;
(2) he intentionally or knowingly tampers with the
tangible property of the owner and causes pecuniary loss or
substantial inconvenience to the owner or a third person

I don't know if I'd call pulling TP out of trees "substantial inconvenience".

[Venus Pax]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5374078.html


There's a difference between what we can do and what we should do. Without careful judgment and discretion, the law can be a dangerous thing.

Falkenberg doesn't live in reality. The reason these two criminals could be so bold as to burglarize a home in the early afternoon is because people with this mindset defend them.

[dihappy]

I don't know if I'd call pulling TP out of trees "substantial inconvenience".

:)

Hey Tx, have u ever had to clean up 180 rolls worth of toilet paper out of your lawn the rainy day after getting your home toilet papered? :)

I havnt, but my good buddy did the day after his 18th birthday :)

Somewhere along the lines of this, but worse :)



Oh, and two vehicles wrapped completely in it :)

[rushman]

http://www.blogsofwar.com/2007/12/03/vi ... upporters/

Makes me sick the way the media gives worthless thugs like him the media attention he's there to get.

We have our own here in Dallas, John Wiley Price being the biggest. A Dallas city councilman who got his media attention too by racebaiting.

Sad thing is we all just shrug it off..

[DoubleJ]

well, hopefully Joe will still have the law on his side, regardless of racebaiting...

[FightinAggieCHL]

Have there been any updates on whether or not this is going to trial?

[Liberty]

Have there been any updates on whether or not this is going to trial?

The Grand Jury will decide that.

[pt145ss]

Have there been any updates on whether or not this is going to trial?

The Grand Jury will decide that.

Yes...but when will it go to the GJ? Anyone know? It seems like everytime I read something about this, it says it will be another 10 days before it is presented.

[lawrnk]

Anyone know what the normal length of time before someone goes to the GJ?

[FightinAggieCHL]

Yea, that was pretty much my question. When is the GJ supposed to review the evidence? Are they doing that now? I'm not too entirely sure on how this whole process works.

[lawrnk]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5383422.html

Colombian community here, abroad weighs in on slayings
Horn shootings draw attention of foreign media


By JAMES PINKERTON
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle

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''License to Kill," reads the headline in Colombia's largest news magazine.

The recent news story, however, was not about endemic drug-related violence in this South American nation, but a double-homicide that has riled Houston.

The slayings of two Colombians by a Pasadena homeowner last month during a burglary has upset Colombians in Houston, and has consular officials closely monitoring the ongoing criminal investigation.

''Whatever they were doing, I don't think it was right what this guy did," said Jorge Herrera, owner of the Colombia Cargo shipping company and a Houston resident for 27 years. ''To me, it's a racial deal."

Two black men from Colombia — Diego Ortiz, 30, and Hernando Riascos Torres, 38 — were shot Nov. 14 by Pasadena computer consultant Joe Horn, who is 61 and white. The deceased, both illegal immigrants, were shot from behind as they left a house next to Horn's residence that they had broken into.

Colombian officials in Houston ''will be very attentive to the case," said Consul General Maria Cristina Chirolla who expressed confidence authorities here will conduct an ''honest and truthful" investigation.

''I have faith in American justice," said Chirolla, a former federal drug prosecutor who has worked with U.S. officials. ''We are respectful of the investigations that are being made by the authorities, and we believe the results will tell us exactly what happened."

Horn has received an outpouring of support from people hailing him as a hero for his actions. Others, however, have said he should be charged in the deaths of the two men.


Large community
Colombians comprise one of the largest community of South American immigrants in Harris County, with the Census Bureau estimating there were 23,317 residents of Colombian origin here in 2006.

In Colombia, the Houston slayings were featured in the Dec. 8 issue of Semana, the nation's largest weekly news magazine, which carried a story under the headline ''License to Kill." The daily newspaper El Pais in Cali used the headline ''Firearms in the Household Divide Americans" in its story about the controversy generated by the killings.

A number of Colombians residing in Houston contacted last week said Horn had a right to defend himself from attack. But they questioned the use of deadly force against burglars who were fleeing a neighbor's home with police on the way.

''They weren't invading his house," said Herrera. ''It was the neighbor's house, and even though he was protecting the neighbors, he had already called 911. He knew the police were on the way."

Fabio Longas, a Colombian businessman, said he wasn't familiar with all the details of the case. ''But I don't think you should shoot someone in the back," he said.

Chirolla, the top Colombian diplomat here, said she hopes the inquiry will resolve the issue of whether the shooting of her two countrymen was lawful.

''The great question is, 'does a person have a right to kill other people only because he suspects them?'; and moreover, when these people had their backs to him and were unarmed," Chirolla said.

The consul questioned why Horn did not stay in his home, as advised by 911 dispatchers. ''We should always be respectful of the police and have confidence in what they tell us and don't take justice, as in this case, into our own hands," she said.


Vigilantism opposed
It was a sentiment expressed by a number of Colombians, including relatives and friends of the two slain men who want to see Horn prosecuted.

''Whatever someone is doing wrong, the only ones who have the right to prosecute them, to put them in prison, are the authorities," said Jairo Riascos, a cousin of Hernando Riascos Torres. ''The only thing we want is for the authorities to bring charges because he didn't kill two animals; he killed two human beings."

Marling Quiñonez, a 30-year-old Colombian native, said she lived with Diego Ortiz for six months before his death and described him as quiet ''and a very good guy, a sweet man."

She said Ortiz leaves behind an 8-month-old infant in Houston, as well as an 11-year-old son and a 13-year-old daughter in Colombia from a previous relationship.

Pasadena police and federal authorities said both men were in the country illegally, and they are trying to determine if they were members of a burglary and fake identity ring. Riascos Torres had been deported to Colombia in 1999, after a cocaine-related conviction.

But local Colombians say whatever crimes the two men committed, they were not deserving of death.

''Nobody has the right to cut short a life," said Lucia Hernandez. ''From what I heard, they weren't harming anyone. What they were doing was bad, but they didn't deserve to have their lives shortened."

[lawrnk]

''Whatever someone is doing wrong, the only ones who have the right to prosecute them, to put them in prison, are the authorities," said Jairo Riascos, a cousin of Hernando Riascos Torres. ''The only thing we want is for the authorities to bring charges because he didn't kill two animals; he killed two human beings."

Nah, I'm going with animals.

[lawrnk]

Only took 10 seconds of reading the article before the race card was played.