What To Do If You Happen Across An Invalid 30.06 Sign

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Re: What To Do If You Happen Across An Invalid 30.06 Sign

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Abraham wrote:So you know the law specifics regarding a proper 30.06 sign and just before you enter a business, you notice the sign is not lawfully compliant.

Me, I go back to my vehicle and disarm if I really want or need to go in. I just don't care to test the system. That's me. This business has made their intent pretty clear, even if their signage is not by law specifically correct.

What do YOU do?


If it's not compliant, than I ignore it same as a gun-buster sign. If it isn't at the entrance I used, I'm not worried about it, as I do check before entering and make a good faith effort to see if it is posted.
Just because the establishment does not legally post the signs, does not make me a criminal. It makes the signs non-enforceable.

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If the sign is quite obviously non-compliant, I ignore it. "Official-sounding" language, gun-buster signs, "No Guns" signs, and the like, I walk right past. If it's got the proper language, but is obviously too small (for example, on a sheet of notebook paper), I blithely ignore it.

If it's got the proper language and appears to be legal or close, I'll disarm. "Contrasting colors" can be argued one way or the other, as can font height (as in one sign I saw that had upper and lower-case letters, where the upper-case were at 1" height and the lower were about 3/4" inches). These I'll leave the gun in the car for; even if I win, it's gonna cost me $$.
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It was the full size sign in spanish and english. It is at the Taco Cabana at 75 and campbell in richardson. It is understood that no one should never know that you are carrying, but what if the situation did arise and the legal sign wasnt posted on both doors?
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Looks like Taco Cabana has heard some of our pleas...And are starting to post the 30.06 correctly... :roll:
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The LAW says what characteristics make a sign valid.

My philosophy is that if the sign is, at first glance, valid, I'm going to observe it; I'm not going to measure the letters and walk by if they're 0.999" high rather than the statutory 1 inch, or if there's a small typo (for example, the transposition of two letters in one word).

On the other hand, it's not darned close to what's spelled out in PC 30.06 (gunbuster's sign, 10 point type on a sheet of notebook paper, etc.) I'm ignoring it, on the reasonable presumption that someone who really wanted to ban CHL holders and knew they needed a sign would also know what the signage requirements actually were.

Sort of like gun shops that offer CHL classes posing a "No Loaded Guns Inside Store" sign - they're not trying to ban CHL holders, they're trying to be sure Joe Deer Hunter doesn't bring in and uncase a loaded .30/30 when he wants to have a 'scope put on . . .
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