Baybrook Mall Sign
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Baybrook Mall Sign
Here is a new and worthless sign at the new Baybrook Mall expansion. Carry On!
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Re: Baybrook Mall Sign
Can't read the sign, but the Galleria also has a Code Of Conduct sign. Maybe they are owned by the same chain.
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Re: Baybrook Mall Sign
Yea-Lakeline in Austin has a code of conduct sign as well. No real sinange, but the theatre has the biggest '07 and '06 signs I've ever seen. I guess they won't have to worry about any shootings there.
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Re: Baybrook Mall Sign
Where is this posted? just out there the other day. Never saw this. Is this legal? vs. the 30.07 or 30.06?
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I'm sure the criminal element gets a huge belly laugh (assuming they're literate) out of "The Code of Conduct malarky.
The Code of Conduct signage isn't the same as 30.06/30.07.
It is ridiculous.
The Code of Conduct signage isn't the same as 30.06/30.07.
It is ridiculous.
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Re: Baybrook Mall Sign
Of course it is legal for them to post the sign.BKV6812 wrote:Where is this posted? just out there the other day. Never saw this. Is this legal? vs. the 30.07 or 30.06?
These types of signs are posted so that mall security can ask people to leave if they violate the "code of conduct".
They have nothing to do with 30.06/30.07 signs.
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It is not legal notification to prohibit a licensee from CCing or OCing if that's what you are asking. But, as Wildbill pointed out, not illegal for them to post the sign.BKV6812 wrote:Where is this posted? just out there the other day. Never saw this. Is this legal? vs. the 30.07 or 30.06?
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Re: Baybrook Mall Sign
Thanks Wild Bill & C-dub, This is great information as we go out there several times a month and I would like to be able to CC whenever the state sends my plastic. Thanks again.
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The sign of course is non-binding. Both my sons work security at Baybrook mall. They were instructed to give verbal warning and inform anyone they see open carrying that they are welcome to shop there but they must go put their gun in their vehicle.
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Do they tell people that or do they tell people to cover up?jollyman wrote:The sign of course is non-binding. Both my sons work security at Baybrook mall. They were instructed to give verbal warning and inform anyone they see open carrying that they are welcome to shop there but they must go put their gun in their vehicle.
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Re: Baybrook Mall Sign
They are instructed to tell them to take it out of the mall.
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jollyman,
Security has the authority to do this with the expectation of being obeyed because...?
Or is it one of those situations where anyone can tell anyone else to do something without any authority, but with the hope they're commands will be obeyed?
Or, if they're commands are ignored there's little the can do about it other than huff and puff...?
I have no idea how this type scenario plays out as it doesn't involve a single store where a store employee can rightly tell you OCing is not allowed in their store vs overall mall security issuing the command to 'take it outside'.
Security has the authority to do this with the expectation of being obeyed because...?
Or is it one of those situations where anyone can tell anyone else to do something without any authority, but with the hope they're commands will be obeyed?
Or, if they're commands are ignored there's little the can do about it other than huff and puff...?
I have no idea how this type scenario plays out as it doesn't involve a single store where a store employee can rightly tell you OCing is not allowed in their store vs overall mall security issuing the command to 'take it outside'.
Re: Baybrook Mall Sign
I will answer this. All property, including the stores are owned by the mall. The retail spaces, including anchor stores, are only leased from the mall, not owned by the stores company.Abraham wrote:jollyman,
Security has the authority to do this with the expectation of being obeyed because...?
Or is it one of those situations where anyone can tell anyone else to do something without any authority, but with the hope they're commands will be obeyed?
Or, if they're commands are ignored there's little the can do about it other than huff and puff...?
I have no idea how this type scenario plays out as it doesn't involve a single store where a store employee can rightly tell you OCing is not allowed in their store vs overall mall security issuing the command to 'take it outside'.
So, mall security would have legal authority to give notice to anyone for violation of mall rules and in turn request they leave mall property, including stores. Failure to follow their request would result in police being called and a high potential for a trespassing charge, whether carrying or not.
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Re: Baybrook Mall Sign
Keith B,
Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks for the heads up.