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Carry at an Airport?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:37 am
by texaseyes
I searched and didn't find a specific post about this. Probably missed it.
Anyway, I am going to pick my daughter up at Bush Intercontinental outside of Houston. What are the rules at Airport Security. I will not be boarding the plane, just going to the waiting area for her to get off.
Will I encounter any problems? Is there a security check point before I get to the waiting area for Continental?
Should I just leave the gun in my truck?
Thanks.
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:45 am
by propellerhead
If it's anything like DFW Airport, you can't get into the secure area without a boarding pass. You can get to the baggage claim area and the ticketing/check in counters. Those are cleared for CHL carry.
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:40 pm
by Drifter
propellerhead wrote:If it's anything like DFW Airport, you can't get into the secure area without a boarding pass. You can get to the baggage claim area and the ticketing/check in counters. Those are cleared for CHL carry.
It is exactly like that.
Sometimes, you can get a pass to the gate area if the traveler you are meeting or seeing off is elderly/very young AND in need of your assistance. However, it depends on the airline and the ticket agent you talk with. Last month, they allowed me or my wife (only one of us) to meet my elderly parent at the gate. However, on other occasions, when we had pre-requested a wheelchair, they won't issue a gate pass. Just depends, best I can tell. If you do get a pass, then you pass thru security and carrying could/would be a major issue.
If your daughter is old enough and does not need any assistance, the easy thing to do is meet her downstairs in baggage claim. You don't pass thru security to get there.
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:22 pm
by Dougmyers5
Leave it in your truck and stay out of possible trouble its not worth it just for the 15 to 30 minutes of security.
All airports wish you would not carry in the terminals unless traveling and then you have to follow the rules for that. Hard case and locked away.
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:39 pm
by texaseyes
Good Advise! Much easier to keep it simple Thanks for all the feedback. This is what makes this board invaluable!
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:41 pm
by txinvestigator
Dougmyers5 wrote:Leave it in your truck and stay out of possible trouble its not worth it just for the 15 to 30 minutes of security.
There is no "possible" trouble.
Unless the airport posts 30.06 concealed carry is not restricted outside of security. Carry inside and avoid the possibility of theft of the gun from the vehicle.
All airports wish you would not carry in the terminals unless traveling and then you have to follow the rules for that. Hard case and locked away.
There is ZERO evidence of that, AND its just not true.
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:50 pm
by Liberty
txinvestigator wrote:Dougmyers5 wrote:Leave it in your truck and stay out of possible trouble its not worth it just for the 15 to 30 minutes of security.
There is no "possible" trouble.
Unless the airport posts 30.06 concealed carry is not restricted outside of security. Carry inside and avoid the possibility of theft of the gun from the vehicle.
All airports wish you would not carry in the terminals unless traveling and then you have to follow the rules for that. Hard case and locked away.
There is ZERO evidence of that, AND its just not true.
I agree. What is not clear to me about this post though is whether the original poster is intending to go to the boarding area with a young child. If that is his plan he would have to go past security and it would be a very bad idea to attempt that while carrying.
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:00 pm
by anygunanywhere
Dougmyers5 wrote:Leave it in your truck and stay out of possible trouble its not worth it just for the 15 to 30 minutes of security.
All airports wish you would not carry in the terminals unless traveling and then you have to follow the rules for that. Hard case and locked away.
You're kidding, right?
What trouble is it? Carrying in the non-security screened areas is no different from packing at church or at the grocery store.
Airport common areas are one of the places you need to carry.
You don't watch the news or keep up with current events much do you?
You don't spend much time traveling either.
Anygun
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:19 pm
by jimlongley
txinvestigator wrote:Dougmyers5 wrote:Leave it in your truck and stay out of possible trouble its not worth it just for the 15 to 30 minutes of security.
There is no "possible" trouble.
Unless the airport posts 30.06 concealed carry is not restricted outside of security. Carry inside and avoid the possibility of theft of the gun from the vehicle.
All airports wish you would not carry in the terminals unless traveling and then you have to follow the rules for that. Hard case and locked away.
There is ZERO evidence of that, AND its just not true.
Well, Love Field "wishes" you would not carry, and even goes so far as to post those silly 30.05 signs that say they apply to CHLs as well, but you have to consider the source.
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:38 pm
by texaseyes
The possible trouble I might have is covered here. Yes, I was planning on going to meet her at the boarding area and surely will have to pass security. Even if I let my wife go to meet her and stay behind the security check going directly to the baggage pickup, I still don't know if the Terminal "E" is 30.06 posted or not. If so, it is a long trip back to the parking area.
The easy fix to this ordeal is to back Gov. Perry and get his new measure put into law that we can carry anywhere rather than having to take a lawyer with us everywhere we go!
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:07 pm
by Liberty
texaseyes wrote:The possible trouble I might have is covered here. Yes, I was planning on going to meet her at the boarding area and surely will have to pass security. Even if I let my wife go to meet her and stay behind the security check going directly to the baggage pickup, I still don't know if the Terminal "E" is 30.06 posted or not. If so, it is a long trip back to the parking area.
The easy fix to this ordeal is to back Gov. Perry and get his new measure put into law that we can carry anywhere rather than having to take a lawyer with us everywhere we go!
The baggage areas are OK to carry. Baggage for terminal E is in Terminal C .. The parking is not so far away.
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:22 pm
by Dougmyers5
txinvestigator wrote:Dougmyers5 wrote:Leave it in your truck and stay out of possible trouble its not worth it just for the 15 to 30 minutes of security.
There is no "possible" trouble.
Unless the airport posts 30.06 concealed carry is not restricted outside of security. Carry inside and avoid the possibility of theft of the gun from the vehicle.
All airports wish you would not carry in the terminals unless traveling and then you have to follow the rules for that. Hard case and locked away.
There is ZERO evidence of that, AND its just not true.
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I worked at DFW airport for 15 years I know they dont like weapons in the airport on the property or in the parking lots and you can bank on that.
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:32 pm
by anygunanywhere
texaseyes wrote:The possible trouble I might have is covered here. Yes, I was planning on going to meet her at the boarding area and surely will have to pass security. Even if I let my wife go to meet her and stay behind the security check going directly to the baggage pickup, I still don't know if the Terminal "E" is 30.06 posted or not. If so, it is a long trip back to the parking area.
The easy fix to this ordeal is to back Gov. Perry and get his new measure put into law that we can carry anywhere rather than having to take a lawyer with us everywhere we go!
Well, why didn't you say so in the first place?
None of the terminals are posted 30.06 compliant. There are signs on the entrances that have the 30.06 wording, but the letters are about 1/8-1/4 inch high. The airports are owned by the City of Houston Airport Authority - government, so even if the signs were compliant they would not apply to CHL.
If you must go into the secure area, by all means, leave it in the vehicle.
No one here would ever offer advice to carry where you can not legally do so, well most of us anyway. I pack wherever and whenever I can, including airports. I picked up friends at IAH recently at several terminals. I met them at the exits of the secured area. No problem. Pack away!
You can already legally carry in the airports. What Gov. Perry wants to do has no bearing on this since the airport is not off limits and governments can not keep you from doing so unless more legislation is passed.
Please forgive me for not understanding the issue, since there is really not much need in "lawyers" in this instance. This is pretty much a non-issue as far as CHL is concerned unless you are really over cautious, in which case you find it necessary to obey all non-compliant 30.06 signs. Just because the airports may not like CHL you are well within the law to carry there. No gray area - black and white.
Anygun
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:41 pm
by Tom
Dougmyers5 wrote:Leave it in your truck and stay out of possible trouble its not worth it just for the 15 to 30 minutes of security.
All airports wish you would not carry in the terminals unless traveling and then you have to follow the rules for that. Hard case and locked away.
I don't doubt what you say is true, but which of the major TX airports are
not owned by a government body of some sort? And while they may wish
for you not to carry under your CHL, outside of the secure TSA controlled
area, what can they legally do about it?
Does a 30-06 posting have any legal weight in the non-secure areas?
This particular issue keeps popping up and it always causes me confusion.
But then, wet caliche can cause me confusion, so being confused isn't all
that uncommon.
Kind Regards from a very wet NW Kerr County,
Tom
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:41 pm
by Liberty
Dougmyers5 wrote:Leave it in your truck and stay out of possible trouble its not worth it just for the 15 to 30 minutes of security.
All airports wish you would not carry in the terminals unless traveling and then you have to follow the rules for that. Hard case and locked away.
Not being a mind reader I don't know how we would know what airport wishes. The rules say that we CHLers can carry in all the public areas of a municipal airport. Except in a 51%er or past the TSA secure zone. I don't believe there are any 51% bars outside the secure zone.