When Young Guns Invade

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Re: When Young Guns Invade

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williamkevin wrote:
Razgriz wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Razgriz wrote:I've heard that it was a heavy gun, but when I got a chance to hold it, I didn't think it was all that heavy, but it's nice to know that you guys like it.
Often, a gun that isn't that heavy in the hand, is really heavy after having it on your belt all day long.
This is probably true :cool:
This is very true, but the PCR model would be considerably lighter than the 75b due to size and the fact that the 75b frame is steel and the PCR frame is aluminum alloy.
But, that's why I liked the 75B, it was steel.

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williamkevin wrote:
LarryH wrote:I'd recommend this model:

http://cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-75-d-pcr-compact/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's nearly the same size as my 4" 1911's, with a 14+1 capacity.
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The above is the one I carry on a daily basis.
It was my daily carry until I started buying 1911's, and is still in the rotation.
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Re: When Young Guns Invade

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Welcome from SE Texas.
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Re: When Young Guns Invade

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Razgriz wrote:
williamkevin wrote:
Razgriz wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Razgriz wrote:I've heard that it was a heavy gun, but when I got a chance to hold it, I didn't think it was all that heavy, but it's nice to know that you guys like it.
Often, a gun that isn't that heavy in the hand, is really heavy after having it on your belt all day long.
This is probably true :cool:
This is very true, but the PCR model would be considerably lighter than the 75b due to size and the fact that the 75b frame is steel and the PCR frame is aluminum alloy.
But, that's why I liked the 75B, it was steel.
Some of us are partial to metal guns in general, myself included. While TAM is right that INITIALLY a gun will feel much heavier on your hip, after carrying it daily for a while, you should adjust. (YMMV)

I have worn the .500 for several days in a row while hunting. It comes in at 5.5 lbs when loaded. With a proper belt, it's not bad. Without a gun belt, I can't stand it on my hip all day. My daily carry is a beretta 96 that comes in at around 35 ounces. With the crossbreed holster and a decent belt, I hardly notice the beretta after the first day or two.

I am a "large" guy, so maybe it's just easier for me to adjust to the heavier guns. I also used to be an operator so I carried around a tool pouch with 440 channelocks, a valve wrench, and a flashlight on my strong side hip for 12 hours at a time, so maybe that has conditioned me to carrying on my hip, who knows.

Bottom line: You should get a good gun belt and a good holster no matter what you are carrying. This is ESPECIALLY important if your going to be carrying a full size gun.
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As was pointed out in another thread (I'm too lazy this morning to find it and post the link),

If the gun is too heavy, just leave the bullets out, makes it much lighter. :biggrinjester:
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If your in the market for a CZ, also consider the RAMI. Its the subcompact version of the 75. Probably a lot easier to conceal than the 75.
http://cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-2075-rami/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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canvasbck wrote:...old coots...
What old coots?? Don't see none round here... ;-)
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suthdj wrote:...I bought it cause I liked the way it looked and felt, not the best way to pick a gun but I am happy.
Sounds like a damn good way to pick a gun.
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razgriz:

Welcome to the forum young man. You will learn a lot by
visiting here on a regular basis.

Probably the most important pointer I would like to give you
is to live a clean life. As a 19 year old you want to stay
away from any situations which may lead to a tangle with the law.

If you can stay legal, and resist doing crazy things with your peers,
you will be on the launching pad to get your plastic (your CHL) as
soon as you hit 21.

Please post your hometown, or at least your area, on your personal
profile so that other forum members in your neck of the woods have
a chance to ask you to the range, or point out good gun stores nearby.

SIA
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2nd Saturdays: Rudy's BBQ, N. Dallas Pkwy, N.bound, N. of Main St., Frisco.
3rd Saturdays: Golden Corral, 465 E. I-20, Collins St exit, Arlington.
4th Saturdays: Sunny St. Cafe, off I-20, Exit 415, Mikus Rd, Willow Park.

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Re: When Young Guns Invade

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surprise_i'm_armed wrote:razgriz:
If you can stay legal, and resist doing crazy things with your peers,
you will be on the launching pad to get your plastic (your CHL) as
soon as you hit 21.

Please post your hometown, or at least your area, on your personal
profile so that other forum members in your neck of the woods have
a chance to ask you to the range, or point out good gun stores nearby.

SIA
1) LOL, my parents are almost to the point where they want to come and bail me out of jail (Yes, Im that boring)
2) I live in McKinney, and am eagerly awaiting august 12th opening of the Cheaper Than Dirt on 380 & 75 (yes, I joined the facebook group)

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Re: When Young Guns Invade

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Welcome to the forum. I've heard good things about the CZ-75 but have never shot one.
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Re: When Young Guns Invade

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surprise_i'm_armed wrote:razgriz:

Welcome to the forum young man. You will learn a lot by
visiting here on a regular basis.

Probably the most important pointer I would like to give you
is to live a clean life. As a 19 year old you want to stay
away from any situations which may lead to a tangle with the law.

If you can stay legal, and resist doing crazy things with your peers,
you will be on the launching pad to get your plastic (your CHL) as
soon as you hit 21.

Please post your hometown, or at least your area, on your personal
profile so that other forum members in your neck of the woods have
a chance to ask you to the range, or point out good gun stores nearby.

SIA
Well said SIA. :clapping:

If you question the wisdom of SIA's post, surf this forum and note the pleas of those who are now attempting to overcome something stupid, immature, moronic and/or illegal that they did when it was cool (they were younger) to do those things. Remember this: "you are known by the company you keep".

Good luck, it's a jungle out there.
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Re: When Young Guns Invade

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Razgriz wrote:
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:razgriz:
If you can stay legal, and resist doing crazy things with your peers,
you will be on the launching pad to get your plastic (your CHL) as
soon as you hit 21.

Please post your hometown, or at least your area, on your personal
profile so that other forum members in your neck of the woods have
a chance to ask you to the range, or point out good gun stores nearby.

SIA
1) LOL, my parents are almost to the point where they want to come and bail me out of jail (Yes, Im that boring)
2) I live in McKinney, and am eagerly awaiting august 12th opening of the Cheaper Than Dirt on 380 & 75 (yes, I joined the facebook group)
You can get a CHL in the next few months.

:txflag: Join the Texas National Guard, go to Basic Training and AIT. Come home and serve one weekend and month and two weeks of Annual Training. There is the chance you may be called to active duty (then you can open carry). You can even have some of you college paid by the state.

Members of the Active Armed Forces, Reserves, and National Guard can get a CHL at 18. I believe that the cost of the CHL is waived.
(g) Notwithstanding Subsection (a)(2), a person who is at least 18
years of age but not yet 21 years of age is eligible for a license to carry
a concealed handgun if the person:
(1) is a member or veteran of the United States armed forces, including
a member or veteran of the reserves or national guard;
(2) was discharged under honorable conditions, if discharged
from the United States armed forces, reserves, or national guard; and
(3) meets the other eligibility requirements of Subsection (a) except
for the minimum age required by federal law to purchase a handgun.
No State shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor. -- Murdock v. Pennsylvania
If the State converts a right into a privilege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right with impunity. -- Shuttleworth v. City of Birmingham

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Re: When Young Guns Invade

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i8godzilla wrote:
Razgriz wrote:
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:razgriz:
If you can stay legal, and resist doing crazy things with your peers,
you will be on the launching pad to get your plastic (your CHL) as
soon as you hit 21.

Please post your hometown, or at least your area, on your personal
profile so that other forum members in your neck of the woods have
a chance to ask you to the range, or point out good gun stores nearby.

SIA
1) LOL, my parents are almost to the point where they want to come and bail me out of jail (Yes, Im that boring)
2) I live in McKinney, and am eagerly awaiting august 12th opening of the Cheaper Than Dirt on 380 & 75 (yes, I joined the facebook group)
You can get a CHL in the next few months.

:txflag: Join the Texas National Guard, go to Basic Training and AIT. Come home and serve one weekend and month and two weeks of Annual Training. There is the chance you may be called to active duty (then you can open carry). You can even have some of you college paid by the state.

Members of the Active Armed Forces, Reserves, and National Guard can get a CHL at 18. I believe that the cost of the CHL is waived.
(g) Notwithstanding Subsection (a)(2), a person who is at least 18
years of age but not yet 21 years of age is eligible for a license to carry
a concealed handgun if the person:
(1) is a member or veteran of the United States armed forces, including
a member or veteran of the reserves or national guard;
(2) was discharged under honorable conditions, if discharged
from the United States armed forces, reserves, or national guard; and
(3) meets the other eligibility requirements of Subsection (a) except
for the minimum age required by federal law to purchase a handgun.
Eh, not my cup of tea, I'll just wait until 21 like everyone else.

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Re: When Young Guns Invade

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Hey there,
I am fairly new to this forum as well. There seems to be a wealth of information for use new CHLers. In reference to your question about the cz-75. I have never shot one personally,but I do heard they are great guns( reliable and affordable). I would defiantly recommend handling both the cz-75 and cz-75 compact. I personally found the trigger to be to far forward on the 75. The compact model fit my hand like a glove and seems to be much better suited for concealment. Ultimately you should pick the one your will be most comfortable with.
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