Reason you decided to get CHL ?
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Re: Reason you decided to get CHL ?
Because I am too old to fistfight.
Me and My family are too young to die.
I am not interested in becoming a victim and then calling for the police to come write a report.
It's my God given right and responsibility to provide for and protect myself.
It's my God given right and responsibility to provide for and protect my family and loved ones.
It's my God given right and responsibility to protect my property.
Having a gun on me is comforting.
Having a gun on me prevented me from being a robbery victim as I was the first to draw and the bg backed down.
Me and My family are too young to die.
I am not interested in becoming a victim and then calling for the police to come write a report.
It's my God given right and responsibility to provide for and protect myself.
It's my God given right and responsibility to provide for and protect my family and loved ones.
It's my God given right and responsibility to protect my property.
Having a gun on me is comforting.
Having a gun on me prevented me from being a robbery victim as I was the first to draw and the bg backed down.
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Re: Reason you decided to get CHL ?
There are a number of reasons for me that others have already stated. But the biggest three reasons are my wife and two little girls. There are a lot of crazy, messed up, and evil people in this world. I cannot control if, when, or where they may choose to make me/us their target, but I consider myself safer and have peace of mind knowing I have the option to defend myself and my family and the means to do so.
Now what I would really love to hear is the other sides' reasons to NOT get a CHL.
Now what I would really love to hear is the other sides' reasons to NOT get a CHL.
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Re: Reason you decided to get CHL ?
Honestly, I have wanted mine since turning 21....ten years ago. . Recently I've compiled a mental list of things I want to do as far as licenses go. Last year it was open water diver, this year CHL. Next year maybe something else. I usually do it for my birthday every year. Oh and my little brother got his first so I cant be out done by him...
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Re: Reason you decided to get CHL ?
Because I can. And because the only "fair" fight is one that I win & can talk about after the fact.
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Re: Reason you decided to get CHL ?
Here's the longer form of my first answer.
Some on the internet have attributed this to a retired marine. But a deeper search reveals the actual auther to be someon named Marko Kloos. Knowing that fact doesn't detract from the incredibly well-thought out & well-positioned argument for keeping the 2nd Ammendment and provides one helluva answer to "why do you have a chl?"
Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it. In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunken guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat -- it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force, watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.
When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... And that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
Some on the internet have attributed this to a retired marine. But a deeper search reveals the actual auther to be someon named Marko Kloos. Knowing that fact doesn't detract from the incredibly well-thought out & well-positioned argument for keeping the 2nd Ammendment and provides one helluva answer to "why do you have a chl?"
Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it. In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunken guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat -- it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force, watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.
When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... And that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
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Re: Reason you decided to get CHL ?
The reasons I got my CHL are simple:
1. It's my 2nd Amendment right and I want to exercise it.
2. With all that's been going on in the world lately I need to be able to protect myself.
3. If Obama wins another term it is my firm belief that with the help of his buddy, Soros, they will start infringing on my rights. Soros already owns several gun manufactures and I think it's only a matter of time before he closes them down. I want to have my CHL because it's tougher to take something away than to prevent me from getting something I never had.
4. Most importantly I have a beautiful wife and 3 wonderful kids. I want the ability to protect them at any time.
Again, my reasons are just that simple.
1. It's my 2nd Amendment right and I want to exercise it.
2. With all that's been going on in the world lately I need to be able to protect myself.
3. If Obama wins another term it is my firm belief that with the help of his buddy, Soros, they will start infringing on my rights. Soros already owns several gun manufactures and I think it's only a matter of time before he closes them down. I want to have my CHL because it's tougher to take something away than to prevent me from getting something I never had.
4. Most importantly I have a beautiful wife and 3 wonderful kids. I want the ability to protect them at any time.
Again, my reasons are just that simple.
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Re: Reason you decided to get CHL ?
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Re: Reason you decided to get CHL ?
I started a similar topic a while back..
Here is my post "I had talked about since the day the legislation had passed. I even discussed it with my wife and had her full support. But as time went by I always felt like I didn't have the time or money to spare. Besides I always had a gun in the house and that was all I needed right?
Despite the fact that a good friend of ours was assaulted and robbed right in front of her kids in a Sam's parking lot, and despite the fact that a couple of houses in our neighborhood had been broken into, I had one in the house and that was all I needed. Even after the MPA passed I still didn't carry one in my car because I didn't have a full understanding of the law and figured it wasn't worth the potential trouble. That came from a previous arrest for UCW.
Then it happened. One night, my wife, daughter, and myself were pulling into our garage in our van. I was horsing around with the kid as my wife exited the vehicle, when out of the corner of my eye I saw my wife raise her hand and yell Stop! A guy was walking up our driveway and about to enter the garage. She reached up and hit the button to shut the garage door. Still I was clueless as to what was going on. She told me and I bolted through the house and grabbed my pistol. It turned out to be some goof supposedly trying to sell newspapers (it was after dark). It was after everything was all over I looked at my wife and said "I know it turned out to be nothing this time, but if he had been up to something he would have had us. I'm getting my CHL".
As Samuel L Jackson said in pulp fiction "I had what alcoholics often refer to as a moment of clarity". I booked a class online and found this site a short time later. I know some of you probably were among the first in line to take the CHL course but I'm curious about other holdouts like myself. What finally pushed you to that point?"
Now I'll add that I do it because it really ticks liberals off.
Here is my post "I had talked about since the day the legislation had passed. I even discussed it with my wife and had her full support. But as time went by I always felt like I didn't have the time or money to spare. Besides I always had a gun in the house and that was all I needed right?
Despite the fact that a good friend of ours was assaulted and robbed right in front of her kids in a Sam's parking lot, and despite the fact that a couple of houses in our neighborhood had been broken into, I had one in the house and that was all I needed. Even after the MPA passed I still didn't carry one in my car because I didn't have a full understanding of the law and figured it wasn't worth the potential trouble. That came from a previous arrest for UCW.
Then it happened. One night, my wife, daughter, and myself were pulling into our garage in our van. I was horsing around with the kid as my wife exited the vehicle, when out of the corner of my eye I saw my wife raise her hand and yell Stop! A guy was walking up our driveway and about to enter the garage. She reached up and hit the button to shut the garage door. Still I was clueless as to what was going on. She told me and I bolted through the house and grabbed my pistol. It turned out to be some goof supposedly trying to sell newspapers (it was after dark). It was after everything was all over I looked at my wife and said "I know it turned out to be nothing this time, but if he had been up to something he would have had us. I'm getting my CHL".
As Samuel L Jackson said in pulp fiction "I had what alcoholics often refer to as a moment of clarity". I booked a class online and found this site a short time later. I know some of you probably were among the first in line to take the CHL course but I'm curious about other holdouts like myself. What finally pushed you to that point?"
Now I'll add that I do it because it really ticks liberals off.
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Re: Reason you decided to get CHL ?
Because it seemed like I should become familiar with and generally get "into guns" before it was actually necessary. Kinda like learning how to change a tire before you get a flat.
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been a CA resident for most of my life but a Texan at heart.
moved here for work and couldnt pass up the opportunity that was not available to me in CA
plus walks with my 3yo etc... never know about stray dog or bad people in the community parks etc...
moved here for work and couldnt pass up the opportunity that was not available to me in CA
plus walks with my 3yo etc... never know about stray dog or bad people in the community parks etc...
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My friend and I (both women) had done some shopping for some supplies for church. It was about 10 PM, and we had decided to unload car that evening at church for convenience sake. We live in a fairly safe area, but are adjacent to a major highway. As I went to unlock the front door, arms full of bags, a car barreled up the long hilly driveway to entrance at a high rate of speed with no lights on. I dropped packages and ran toward my car, hoping to grab cute little bottle of pink mace that would obviously save our lives. Blinding lights suddenly hit us and after what seemed like a lifetime, a cop poked his head out of his window to inquire what we were doing. It was my second "come to Jesus" moment at church. I started CHL process that week. Looking back, at the way it went down, I do sometimes wonder what would have happened if I was armed though? I guess protocol for a suspected burglary would make sense for cops to approach like that, but I was pretty upset that he didn't even flash his blues as he approached?
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Re: Reason you decided to get CHL ?
I dont want my parents to have to bury their oldest son
I dont want my lovely wife to become a widow so soon in our marriage
I love my family and friends
To make the federal government think twice about taking more of our rights and money
I dont want my lovely wife to become a widow so soon in our marriage
I love my family and friends
To make the federal government think twice about taking more of our rights and money
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Re: Reason you decided to get CHL ?
Well, I finally came out and told my wife that I got my CHL... so I've been carrying for 5 months and neither my wife or daughters ever noticed! My wife doesn't fully understand how this works and expressed concerns about how many people may be carrying in public without her noticing. I told her she needs not to worry about the people that go thru the trouble of getting licensed and not to worry about the guns she doesn't see.77346 wrote:I have been carrying daily for over a month now and I haven't come out of the closet yet... my wife doesn't know, neither my daughters. They know I have guns, but don't suspect that I now have one on me every time I leave the house. I need to tell them one of these days
She finally agreed to go shooting with me and learn how to use my guns...
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CHL since 7/12 | 28 days mailbox-to-mailbox
Re: Reason you decided to get CHL ?
Because I have grown fond of my family and they depend on me. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics are flawed.