CHL Insurance...Which Do I Choose?
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CHL Insurance...Which Do I Choose?
I've determined that I am going to carry liability insurance. It just seems smart and prudent to do so, even if I live in a state that is relatively friendly to CHL holders. I am an NRA member, so I've heard about Carry Guard, and USCCA seems to have a pretty good option as well for $30/mo. Does anyone have either one and can you tell me the pros and cons of carrying either?
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Re: CHL Insurance...Which Do I Choose?
It appears the NRA Carry Guard is no longer insurance, just offers training and "resources." I haven't seen an official announcement from the NRA though a couple of articles I've run across said the insurance portion of Carry Guard is no longer being offered.Stick_Shift wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:44 am I've determined that I am going to carry liability insurance. It just seems smart and prudent to do so, even if I live in a state that is relatively friendly to CHL holders. I am an NRA member, so I've heard about Carry Guard, and USCCA seems to have a pretty good option as well for $30/mo. Does anyone have either one and can you tell me the pros and cons of carrying either?
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Re: CHL Insurance...Which Do I Choose?
The product I think you are looking for is commonly misidentified as "insurance." It is more correctly characterized as pre-paid legal services. There are several good services available. They are so different that an apples-to-apples comparison is not readily possible. All of the carriers in my extended family are members of https://www.uslawshield.com/. Others for which I have hear good recommendations include: Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network, USCCA, Firearms Legal Protection. You will have to do your own due diligence to see which benefits matter most to you.
For all practical purposes, Carry Guard "insurance" is dead. Attorney Andrew Branca (Law of Self Defense) explains in this YouTube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKGd6fruOA
In this YouTube video, John Lovell (Warrior Poet Society) interviews attorney Andrew Branca (Law of Self Defense) on the topic of self defense coverage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wilf_R5wlNQ
For all practical purposes, Carry Guard "insurance" is dead. Attorney Andrew Branca (Law of Self Defense) explains in this YouTube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKGd6fruOA
In this YouTube video, John Lovell (Warrior Poet Society) interviews attorney Andrew Branca (Law of Self Defense) on the topic of self defense coverage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wilf_R5wlNQ
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Re: CHL Insurance...Which Do I Choose?
Well, that makes the decision easy. USCCA it is, then.Grayling813 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:59 am It appears the NRA Carry Guard is no longer insurance, just offers training and "resources." I haven't seen an official announcement from the NRA though a couple of articles I've run across said the insurance portion of Carry Guard is no longer being offered.
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Re: CHL Insurance...Which Do I Choose?
Glad you brought this to everyone's attention, not a lot of people realize how much money In legal fees alone it will cost in a self defense murder case. 99% of the time you will be charged. Unless you wear a body cam at all times or the incident was captured on video somehow its your word and evidence against a D.A. that can and will twist the truth to which he/she has no boundaries. That conviction rate is all that matters to them in most cases.
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What’s your source that shows 99% of the time you will be charged?narcissist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:52 pm Glad you brought this to everyone's attention, not a lot of people realize how much money In legal fees alone it will cost in a self defense murder case. 99% of the time you will be charged. Unless you wear a body cam at all times or the incident was captured on video somehow its your word and evidence against a D.A. that can and will twist the truth to which he/she has no boundaries. That conviction rate is all that matters to them in most cases.
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Yeah, I’m with you, I suspect it’s less than that somehow. But I’m not taking any chances.mrvmax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:41 pmWhat’s your source that shows 99% of the time you will be charged?narcissist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:52 pm Glad you brought this to everyone's attention, not a lot of people realize how much money In legal fees alone it will cost in a self defense murder case. 99% of the time you will be charged. Unless you wear a body cam at all times or the incident was captured on video somehow its your word and evidence against a D.A. that can and will twist the truth to which he/she has no boundaries. That conviction rate is all that matters to them in most cases.
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Re: CHL Insurance...Which Do I Choose?
I like CCW Safe. The coverage, in my research and opinion, appears to be more comprehensive than all the others I have looked at.
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Re: CHL Insurance...Which Do I Choose?
Stick_Shift wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:53 pmYeah, I’m with you, I suspect it’s less than that somehow. But I’m not taking any chances.mrvmax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:41 pmWhat’s your source that shows 99% of the time you will be charged?narcissist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:52 pm Glad you brought this to everyone's attention, not a lot of people realize how much money In legal fees alone it will cost in a self defense murder case. 99% of the time you will be charged. Unless you wear a body cam at all times or the incident was captured on video somehow its your word and evidence against a D.A. that can and will twist the truth to which he/she has no boundaries. That conviction rate is all that matters to them in most cases.
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Glad you got the point I was trying to make, good to see some people have common sense still.Stick_Shift wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:53 pmYeah, I’m with you, I suspect it’s less than that somehow. But I’m not taking any chances.mrvmax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:41 pmWhat’s your source that shows 99% of the time you will be charged?narcissist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:52 pm Glad you brought this to everyone's attention, not a lot of people realize how much money In legal fees alone it will cost in a self defense murder case. 99% of the time you will be charged. Unless you wear a body cam at all times or the incident was captured on video somehow its your word and evidence against a D.A. that can and will twist the truth to which he/she has no boundaries. That conviction rate is all that matters to them in most cases.
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It had nothing to do with common sense, the issue is that you made statements blatantly incorrect and misleading. You made statements as if they were fact so don’t put the blame on those of us who know better.narcissist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:15 pmGlad you got the point I was trying to make, good to see some people have common sense still.Stick_Shift wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:53 pmYeah, I’m with you, I suspect it’s less than that somehow. But I’m not taking any chances.mrvmax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:41 pmWhat’s your source that shows 99% of the time you will be charged?narcissist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:52 pm Glad you brought this to everyone's attention, not a lot of people realize how much money In legal fees alone it will cost in a self defense murder case. 99% of the time you will be charged. Unless you wear a body cam at all times or the incident was captured on video somehow its your word and evidence against a D.A. that can and will twist the truth to which he/she has no boundaries. That conviction rate is all that matters to them in most cases.
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Re: CHL Insurance...Which Do I Choose?
CCW Safe here also.
Like their coverage and professionalism when I have contacted them.
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Re: CHL Insurance...Which Do I Choose?
Thanks for those videos. I note that Branca has his coverage with the same organisation I am with, so maybe I did make a good choice two years ago.oljames3 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:02 pm The product I think you are looking for is commonly misidentified as "insurance." It is more correctly characterized as pre-paid legal services. There are several good services available. They are so different that an apples-to-apples comparison is not readily possible. All of the carriers in my extended family are members of https://www.uslawshield.com/. Others for which I have hear good recommendations include: Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network, USCCA, Firearms Legal Protection. You will have to do your own due diligence to see which benefits matter most to you.
For all practical purposes, Carry Guard "insurance" is dead. Attorney Andrew Branca (Law of Self Defense) explains in this YouTube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKGd6fruOA
In this YouTube video, John Lovell (Warrior Poet Society) interviews attorney Andrew Branca (Law of Self Defense) on the topic of self defense coverage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wilf_R5wlNQ
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