Arrest still following me around...extra waiting.

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The blue sheet with your application says to send in court papers IF you have them. They do not reguire them but like to have them if you have them. This was confirmed by email from CHL rep III. They have all your arrest and disposition on computer if they were anytime in recent history. Look and the blue sheet again that came with your application. I realize the yellow app says to send the court papers in bold.....

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Mark G26 wrote:The blue sheet with your application says to send in court papers IF you have them. They do not reguire them but like to have them if you have them. This was confirmed by email from CHL rep III. They have all your arrest and disposition on computer if they were anytime in recent history. Look and the blue sheet again that came with your application. I realize the yellow app says to send the court papers in bold.....
Who is "they" who have your arrest record on computer? Counties are nly required to send Felonies to DPS.

If you don't or can't send the certified copies, it S_________L_______O______W__________S the process. ;-)
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Mark G26 wrote:The blue sheet with your application says to send in court papers IF you have them. They do not reguire them but like to have them if you have them. This was confirmed by email from CHL rep III. They have all your arrest and disposition on computer if they were anytime in recent history. Look and the blue sheet again that came with your application. I realize the yellow app says to send the court papers in bold.....
I went ahead and got the court papers. If it were a year earlier it would have been gone since they cut it off in 1989. Lucky me!
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txinvestigator wrote:
Mark G26 wrote:The blue sheet with your application says to send in court papers IF you have them. They do not reguire them but like to have them if you have them. This was confirmed by email from CHL rep III. They have all your arrest and disposition on computer if they were anytime in recent history. Look and the blue sheet again that came with your application. I realize the yellow app says to send the court papers in bold.....
Who is "they" who have your arrest record on computer? Counties are nly required to send Felonies to DPS.

If you don't or can't send the certified copies, it S_________L_______O______W__________S the process. ;-)

They is the DPS CHL department. My CHL was revoked 8 years ago for a class B and when I called and emailed them they looked up the conviction and told me the dispossition and if I had the court papers fine but not required.

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Went ahead and ordered the court papers after reading more post. I will just send to them next week. They just receivd my application this week.

I was thinking why create delays. Thanks CHL Instructor

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Mark G26 wrote:Went ahead and ordered the court papers after reading more post. I will just send to them next week. They just receivd my application this week.

I was thinking why create delays. Thanks CHL Instructor
They told me it would be ten business days, but Tarrant county had them to me within a week. It was a lot quicker than I thought and my app is finally mailed in. I'm such a procrastinator...
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govnor wrote:
Mark G26 wrote:Went ahead and ordered the court papers after reading more post. I will just send to them next week. They just receivd my application this week.

I was thinking why create delays. Thanks CHL Instructor
They told me it would be ten business days, but Tarrant county had them to me within a week. It was a lot quicker than I thought and my app is finally mailed in. I'm such a procrastinator...
I meant I already sent my application to Austin. I will supplement it with the court papers next week when they come in. Oh well...

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Mark G26 wrote:
govnor wrote:
Mark G26 wrote:Went ahead and ordered the court papers after reading more post. I will just send to them next week. They just receivd my application this week.

I was thinking why create delays. Thanks CHL Instructor
They told me it would be ten business days, but Tarrant county had them to me within a week. It was a lot quicker than I thought and my app is finally mailed in. I'm such a procrastinator...
I meant I already sent my application to Austin. I will supplement it with the court papers next week when they come in. Oh well...
It might help if you put your application/chl number on the pages you send in case they need to track your paperwork for collating. hth.
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Does any one know if this would happen to exponged records. I have a similiar problem, although when I talked to my attorney he said exponged meant any record of it is deleted from every where it went. I have a fear it will come up.
Never went to court as the case was dismissed and charges dropped, record exponged.

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doolyd wrote:Does any one know if this would happen to exponged records. I have a similiar problem, although when I talked to my attorney he said exponged meant any record of it is deleted from every where it went. I have a fear it will come up.
Never went to court as the case was dismissed and charges dropped, record exponged.
I asked my CHL instructor about that and he said just to write "expunged" next to it. I would definitely list the arrest. It asks for arrests of any kind. If you want to get the court papers then call the court where it happened and see if they even have a record. I'm assuming they don't, so you could probably just write that it's expunged and be done with it...

Worst case scenario is that they send back your paperwork and ask you to get court documents, but at least you were honest about your arrest record.
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doolyd wrote:Does any one know if this would happen to exponged records. I have a similiar problem, although when I talked to my attorney he said exponged meant any record of it is deleted from every where it went. I have a fear it will come up.
Never went to court as the case was dismissed and charges dropped, record exponged.
Was the expunction in Texas? Are you SURE it was expunged. Expunction requests are filed with the court and go through the DA/CA office, and are not cheap. They are not done automatically either; your attorney must file for an expunction.

It was good advice to tell you to check the court clerks in the county where the incident occurred.
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Expungement

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Hello, I also had an expungement done in California and it still popped up on the Texas background check. I had to send certified copy of expungement/dismissal. I don't know how much time it added and my application is still processing application. I called the CHL/DPS lady and she said the lawyers had it and that it should be a couple of weeks. June 18th is when I spoke with her. I did not put down this conviction being that it was expunged. My advice put it down with a certified copy of the expungement/dismissal paperwork.

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Re: Expungement

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kryten67 wrote:Hello, I also had an expungement done in California and it still popped up on the Texas background check. I had to send certified copy of expungement/dismissal. I don't know how much time it added and my application is still processing application. I called the CHL/DPS lady and she said the lawyers had it and that it should be a couple of weeks. June 18th is when I spoke with her. I did not put down this conviction being that it was expunged. My advice put it down with a certified copy of the expungement/dismissal paperwork.
When did they get your application?

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Thanks for the replies. It would seem meaningless to expunge a record then have to divulge the information later. The entire process is meant to protect a person from being falsely arrested or charge for a crime. My attorney at the time advised me that I would never have to admit to anything unless in court, under oath.

I try to follow the system but sometimes the system just fails you and perhaps your only recourse is to no longer follow it. :evil:

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doolyd wrote:Thanks for the replies. It would seem meaningless to expunge a record then have to divulge the information later. The entire process is meant to protect a person from being falsely arrested or charge for a crime. My attorney at the time advised me that I would never have to admit to anything unless in court, under oath.

I try to follow the system but sometimes the system just fails you and perhaps your only recourse is to no longer follow it. :evil:
I hear you, but it asks for "arrests." Even going back to juvenile. Why does it ask that? I have no idea. You probably have nothing to worry about by putting nothing, but then...I'm not a lawyer.
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