TXPeaceOfficerDave wrote:Applied for LTC on July 24th with wife.
We to the academy and graduated Aug 1994 in MS
Worked as a full time officer there until Sep 2001 and then recalled to active duty after 9/11 to USAF
Got off voluntary extended active duty in Dec 2007 and transferred peace officer license to TX
Recalled again in 2012 and sent to Iraq again.
Now medically retired from USAF and Texas retired peace officer as if 2013. Had license voluntarily suspended while gone so that I wouldn't have to do my required state mandates training hours while deployed.
Now back full time with my normal civilian job at USAA and love it. Wife works here too which is kind of odd sometimes. Lol.
David Lofton
TX officer PID 368281
Captain USAFR Ret.
Glad to have you aboard!
We have several former and current LEO members here, myself included. We look forward to your insight, and any experience you want to relate.
Edit to add.
Thank you for your service!!
Take away the Second first, and the First is gone in a second
Glad to have you aboard!
We have several former and current LEO members here, myself included. We look forward to your insight, and any experience you want to relate.
For the record, I have seen lots of comments on this forum about the words "background check". It is NOT a background check unless it is an SSBI or an MSBI.
If you know what an SSBI is then you know what a background check is. If you don't then you likely have never really had a background check.
Sure. Most of you have had an NCIC and county check. Asked for child support. Done a few 21 database search.
But you've not had a TRUE background check unless you've had a lifestyle poly. Talked you your neighbors. I reviewed your boss and coworkers IN PERSON. ran your credit. Talked to your
Mortgage holder. And also had all that fine on your spouse and any child that lives with you over age 18.
Then you'll know what a background check is.
What they do for a LTC is a cursory review of databases and a few mail outs. That's it ladies and gentlemen.
TXPeaceOfficerDave wrote:For the record, I have seen lots of comments on this forum about the words "background check". It is NOT a background check unless it is an SSBI or an MSBI.
If you know what an SSBI is then you know what a background check is. If you don't then you likely have never really had a background check.
If I'm honest, I don't know the difference, I was just going by what the site was telling me.
TXPeaceOfficerDave wrote:Sure. Most of you have had an NCIC and county check. Asked for child support. Done a few 21 database search.
But you've not had a TRUE background check unless you've had a lifestyle poly. Talked you your neighbors. I reviewed your boss and coworkers IN PERSON. ran your credit. Talked to your
Mortgage holder. And also had all that fine on your spouse and any child that lives with you over age 18.
Then you'll know what a background check is.
What they do for a LTC is a cursory review of databases and a few mail outs. That's it ladies and gentlemen.
Been there done that. Also a few years ago had the DOD check for my security clearance. The LTC process probably isn't as intense or thorough, but then it shouldn't be. In fact, most of us would agree that to carry a handgun in Texas should be recognized as a right, that requires no government intervention at all, unless we are already prohibited from possessing a fire arm.
Take away the Second first, and the First is gone in a second
I agree wholeheartedly. Proud to say that I have NEVER EVEN ONCE arrested anyone for simply possession of a gun.
I have arrested those for USING a gun when they committed an offense but not for simply having it.
Hierarchy as if pertains to a criminal
Justice theory called "federalism". Federalism is the legal definition of how laws are arranged in a chain of command of sorts. Ex: local ordinances are under state laws. If they conflict with state law then state law supersedes. If the state law is in conflict with federal law then federal law supersedes. If federal law is in conflict with the Constitution then the Constitution supersedes. Therefore, the carrying of arms should always be protected.
However...there are some REALISTIC limitations on Constitutional rights. Before you get your tail feather ruffled let me please explain one. First Amendment. You can lawfully say whatever you want. Freedom of Speech. But you CANNOT yell "fire" in a crowded theatre. While you are technically speaking when you yell "fire" you are unlawfully doing so. Same thing with arms. There are lawful limits on HOW you carry them. Not lawful limits on owning them. For this reason I am completely against any NFA laws. NFA laws are clearly unconstitutional prima facie. Because they deal with ownership. Not action.
So. In other words. Limits are fine as long as they don't have the effect of BANNING. the Heller decisions was 100% right. Any officer of the law or the court that says otherwise should have their BAR or
PID number removed from the state of Texas.
I have a question regarding the status updates.... I electronically submitted paperwork on Aug 15th (including having my fingerprints done on the same day), how long does it normally take for the status to say something? Currently my status still says "Application processed online. Handgun Licensing is waiting on the receipt of required materials" - is that normal?
ScottS wrote:I have a question regarding the status updates.... I electronically submitted paperwork on Aug 15th (including having my fingerprints done on the same day), how long does it normally take for the status to say something? Currently my status still says "Application processed online. Handgun Licensing is waiting on the receipt of required materials" - is that normal?
Yes that's normal. Mine showed that for about 7 business days before the status updated.
I'm new to this board and found it helpful during my waiting period. I'd thought I'd share my experience.
Application : 6/29
Fingerprints : 6/30
Proof of Classroom training : 7/23
Proof of Proficiency training : 7/23
Proof of Special Condition (DD 214) : 6/29 Email from state showing receipt of supplemental docs: 7/24
Background Check : Completed 8/20
License To Carry A Handgun : Mailed 8/22
License received: 8/25
It appears that my wait time was one day longer than a month after I did my part.
Everything is green and complete, and status says "print pending" how long does it usually take after that to get the plastic? It's been four full months for me...can't take it anymore! Lol ...love this forum!
I had a minor typo in my previous post, the date that I submitted paperwork was on 8/16/2016 (not 15th). Today my status has updated to show something (that's 8 business days for status to change from the default in case anyone is wondering)
It now says Background Check : Under review and License To Carry A Handgun : Print pending completion of application review.
Sat in "pending submission of documents", had to harass them a bit to find out what they were missing..
Submitted proof of citizenship 8/16 - no confirmation
Continued to sit in "pending submission of documents" until 8/25
Status screen showed up 8/25
Background check finished 8/26
Sitting in print pending
According to them they didn't have all documents, therefore didn't start my packet, until 8/16. By that standard it has only taken all of about 10 days so far...
