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Re: I voted!

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Occasionally leftists join the forum, quote their questionable bona fides in an attempt to prove their credibility and superior political acumen.

That effort aside, next step, they hope to get Conservatives to vote (in this instance) for clinton.

Sorry leftists, the vast majority on this board are not any brand of socialist, communist, marxist.

We have great respect for the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Leftists repudiate both.

Vote for Trump!
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Re: I voted!

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bblhd672 wrote:
You always point out how knowledgeable you are about everything concerning LTC and 2nd Amendment in Texas, "friends in DPS", etc.
You are basically a broken record, saying the same things over and over without being able to articulate reasonable arguments for your positions and do not answer questions put to you by people on this forum who don't agree with your statements.
For these reasons I will not "bash away" at you - I will simply ignore you and anything you have to say on this forum in the future.
I think this is the best approach.
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Re: I voted!

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To be fair, that's also how Bush, a Republican, chips away your freedoms, too. See the unpatriotic Patriot Act. The constitution guards against unwarranted searches, but they can search you at the airport with scanners that can see you in the nude. The mainstream media has painted Trump unfairly as "racist" but the mainstream media is controlled by the political establishment and lying. Why would our fellow forum member Beiruty vote Trump if Trump is a "racist"? Beiruty is Muslim. Trump is not a likable guy but Here's your choice in a nutshell;

1. Trump: America is for Americans. His campaign funds are from only red blooded Americans like you or I. That's why he has only $175 million. Unfortunately, that's also why he will LOSE. (unless we give him more money, more time volunteering for his campaign, etc.) He wants to build a wall to keep out non-Americans, he wants to negotiate better trade deals for Americans, he wants to negotiate better nuclear arms nonproliferation deals for Americans. Yes, probably Putin has a link with Trump somehow, but how do you think he's going to get NATO to pay up? renegotiate a trade deal with China? renegotiate with Iran? Russia shares a border with both Iran and China. In order for an embargo of Iran to be successful, Russia has to cooperate. In order for China to renegotiate their cushy trade deal, you'll have to have a bargaining chip such as a Russian thorn in their side. If America buys Russian oil instead of middle eastern oil and embargo Iran, that would shut off funding for terrorists. If America is allies with Russia, we would no longer need NATO to guard against Russia. However, NATO will need us to continue defending them. This would put us in a sweet spot to demand payment from them. I think that's Trump's trump card to crush terrorism and renegotiate trade deals with China and balance the budget. NATO has costed us trillions of dollars in defense spending over the years. That's why neocon Republicans and neocon democrats like Hillary hate him. He's going to end their NATO funding gravy train by allying with Russia instead of the middle east. Other nations will have to pay their fair share with Trump. With Hillary, the middle class will have to pay their fair share of taxes: https://youtu.be/eTnN13AaMbQ?t=40s This is a video of her saying EXACTLY WHAT SHE IS GOING TO DO. Straight from the Hillary horse's mouth, "we will raise taxes on the middle class." Trump will tax other countries.


2. HIllary: America is a cog in the machine of the New World Order. You might be surprised to find that she is a globalist. She has accepted money from Saudi Arabia (> $25 million), Qatar (> $1 million), Morocco (>$1 million), Monsanto, and Chinese businessmen. Under Hillary, you will be grovelling for scraps while the globalist multinational corporations rake in the profits. While America is burning, the middle east and China will be laughing at us. She has over $500 million from globalist interests!

What "he said," "she said" are just political details. The meat of the matter is this; FOLLOW THE MONEY. If you follow the money, you'll know what they REALLY stand for. His misogyny, his poor business practices, her murdering a Supreme Court justice (see Wikileaks Podesta emails), her health problems. These are all just details that do not matter. What does matter is, eventually, they will have to keep the promises that they made to the people who gave them money.
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THAT is how leftist (and some RINO) politicians "do away with" the 2nd Amendment. (and your other freedoms)

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Re: I voted!

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I sure hope with the turn out for early voting and things like this are a sign of what will happen 2 weeks from today. This is from Kaine's rally in Florida.

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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10 ... ople-show/
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Re: I voted!

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I won't repeat it, but her/their slogan has a certain stodgy banality reminiscent of old school commies...it's a wonder we don't also see a hammer and sickle...

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Re: I voted!

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infoman wrote:Everyone will say I'm a troll, but I'm voting democrat. I've been a proud member of this forum since 2009 & hope to continue a long time to come. I have an LTC & have a good friend that works for DPS, also my stepdad was an instructor until recently. I don't particularly care for either candidate & I think there were much better candidates in the primaries. But, I do lean left & I do think we're better off with her vs Trump. I support strict gun laws, but I also know (100% know) that Texas will continue to have an LTC & nothing will change that. The 2nd amendment will never be "done away with", No president is history has or ever will do away with the 2nd amendment. that's my 2 cents. Bash away at me.
OK, so I understand that you may not be especially worried about protecting the second amendment. I get that.

But you didn't say why you are voting for Hillary. I'm really curious about what good things you think she will do for this country. Or is it just about trying to stop Trump?
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Re: I voted!

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infoman wrote:Everyone will say I'm a troll, but I'm voting democrat. I've been a proud member of this forum since 2009 & hope to continue a long time to come. I have an LTC & have a good friend that works for DPS, also my stepdad was an instructor until recently. I don't particularly care for either candidate & I think there were much better candidates in the primaries. But, I do lean left & I do think we're better off with her vs Trump. I support strict gun laws, but I also know (100% know) that Texas will continue to have an LTC & nothing will change that. The 2nd amendment will never be "done away with", No president is history has or ever will do away with the 2nd amendment. that's my 2 cents. Bash away at me.
In my early voting life I voted Democrat, and was very involved in the party. I changed my affiliation to Republican as soon as I realized that the Democrat party was becoming the American Communist Party, and I have never looked back.
I might add that at one time there were conservative Democrats in Texas.

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Re: I voted!

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Abraham wrote:I won't repeat it, but her/their slogan has a certain stodgy banality reminiscent of old school commies...it's a wonder we don't also see a hammer and sickle...
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You mean something like this?

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Or this?

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Re: I voted!

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Soccerdad1995 wrote:
infoman wrote:Everyone will say I'm a troll, but I'm voting democrat. I've been a proud member of this forum since 2009 & hope to continue a long time to come. I have an LTC & have a good friend that works for DPS, also my stepdad was an instructor until recently. I don't particularly care for either candidate & I think there were much better candidates in the primaries. But, I do lean left & I do think we're better off with her vs Trump. I support strict gun laws, but I also know (100% know) that Texas will continue to have an LTC & nothing will change that. The 2nd amendment will never be "done away with", No president is history has or ever will do away with the 2nd amendment. that's my 2 cents. Bash away at me.
OK, so I understand that you may not be especially worried about protecting the second amendment. I get that.

But you didn't say why you are voting for Hillary. I'm really curious about what good things you think she will do for this country. Or is it just about trying to stop Trump?
That is kind a the sad part. This cycle I am not voting for anyone...I am voting AGAINST someone...
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Re: I voted!

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It is no mistake that the current POTUS' campaign slogan was "Forward" or that HRC's 2016 election campaign logo includes an arrow pointing right (forward as we in the West read across a page). The symbolism used by both of these campaigns is decidedly Progressive, nee Socialist, in nature --fitting due to the themes of their policies. They have each chosen to embrace the collectivists who understand the symbols, trusting that too few others either understand them or care. Obama's gambit was successful. We'll soon see if HRC's is.
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Re: I voted!

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"Forward" "Together" "Unite" ect... are all used by the commies and socialist. As are most slogans with "workers" or "work."
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Re: I voted!

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I understand that this can be a heated topic, but ALL POST THAT ARE PERSONAL ATTACKS WILL BE DELETED. So if yours comes up missing you will know why. If you continue the personal attacks then your account will be deleted.

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Re: I voted!

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Here is some inside baseball on Hillary's position regarding guns. This, like many of her positions, seems to have two versions, the public version and the private version.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/30723
- I was very proud of the President this week making a powerful statement about the urgent need to end the epidemic of gun violence in America. His new executive actions include steps that I’ve advocated for throughout this campaign. We are losing 90 people a day to gun violence, so the President is right: this is a national crisis. And, as he said, voters should not support any candidate who does not support common-sense gun reform.
- Democrats have a real choice here, because standing up to the gun lobby is a big difference between Senator Sanders and myself. The Brady Bill has kept 2 million guns out of the hands of people who shouldn’t have them -- Senator Sanders voted against it five times. But that may not be his worst vote on gun safety.
- Ten years ago, gun safety advocates wanted to take gun makers and sellers to court for their reckless disregard for human life. If an auto company sells an unsafe car, you can sue them. Unsafe food, unsafe tools, unsafe toys – the makers can all be sued. So the NRA wrote a bill that said, “No one can sue a gun maker or a gun seller.”
- The bill came before Congress. The pressure was intense. *The head of the NRA called the vote “the most significant piece of pro-gun legislation in twenty years.” And when it really mattered, Senator Sanders voted with the gun lobby and I voted against the gun lobby. *
- I would certainly understand if Senator Sanders would just stand up and say, “I got this one wrong. I made a mistake. I’m sorry.” But he hasn’t. He’s defended his vote time and again. He’s said he would “consider” some changes to the law – but that was almost 90 days ago – and where are the changes? - And so, *go back to what President Obama said – guns should be a voting issue. And Senator Sanders has been wrong on gun safety and wrong on the leading cause of death for young people in our country. So that’s a clear choice for Democrats in this primary.*

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Jake Sullivan <jsullivan@hillaryclinton.com> wrote: And if he is teeing this up to get right on immunity, I might change the last bullet. - And so, go back to what President Obama said – GUNS SHOULD BE A VOTING ISSUE. AND Senator Sanders HAS BEEN wrong on gun safety AND wrong on the leading cause of death for young people in our country. AND VOTERS NEED TO WEIGH THAT.
So, in essence, they want to ignore the 2nd Amendment and put gun ownership up to the voters. We know there would never be any manipulation and illegal voting activities involved in that vote. :banghead:
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Re: I voted!

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Yup. I would've been more than happy to vote for Sanders over Trump because Sanders is pro 2nd-A (as much as a liberal can be) and he is not a misogynist nor a possible racist. However, the media has been very unfair to Trump. I reviewed his supposed comment saying Mexicans are racists and it is not true but taken out of context: https://youtu.be/uo-7ISmwAi0?t=1m14s. He pointed out to his Mexican audience that he does not mean "you" and "you" when saying that "some" (not all) Mexicans that Mexico sends us (not the ones that run across the border of their own accord. The Government of Mexico sends these people to us) are rapists and criminals. He might be a misogynist or it could be just a bit of locker room machismo.

However, Sanders is NOT on the ballot but Trump is.

I dislike Trump. I think he has verbal diarrhoea. However, I will vote for him. Why? For the first time in modern history, we have a candidate who is PRO AMERICAN AND POPULIST. He told GM that he'd raise a 35% tax on GM cars built in Mexico if they shut down any more American factories. NO POLITICIAN REPUBLICAN NOR DEMOCRAT HAS EVER DARED SAY THIS.

A vote for Trump is a vote for America the beautiful. A vote for Hillary is a vote for globalist corporations, biased mass media, corrupt politicians, and foreign influence, wall street and everyone else who has milked the middle class dry. If you have $1000 in your piggy bank, give 1/2 of it to the Trump campaign NOW or America will no longer be America. Globalists have given the Hillary campaign 500 million directly and many more billions indirectly via social engineering movies, other media, and super PACs. I invite you ACT NOW. God bless America.
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