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2 points for the Girlfriend and her eyes
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:45 pm
by glockrell
Hello to all,
Ok, since I have gotten my plastic in hand, I have carried every moment possible!!
Side Note: Its interesting how seldom I drink now!!
It's difficult to find interest places to be entertained and carry. Typically, I try to go to a place that has a full food menu. So just the other night my girlfriend wanted to play pool. The only place that wasn't a "hole in the wall" that I could think of was Fox and the Hound. Upon entering, I looked hard!! Up the doors, entrance, walls where the lady I.D.'s you....Nothing. Halfway into the first game of pool, my girlfriend says "you know this is a 51% place and I hope your not carrying" I said where? My heart dropped! I knew I looked thoroughly. As she shows me, through window near the corner of the entry wall was 3 signs, "51%". How in the Hell do they expect anyone to see those signs? It wasnt front facing on the wall beyond the entry doors, it was on right "L" of the wall.
Needless to say, I removed and placed it in the car. But what if, she wouldn't have noticed. Man, it could have gone bad.
I am glad to know educating my girlfriend about the carry laws payed off.
Keep alert.
Re: 2 points for the Girlfriend and her eyes
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:00 pm
by jimlongley
Next time you go there, look for a copy of their license and see if it says "Sign = Red" or "Sign = Blue", maybe the 51% sign is posted improperly.
Re: 2 points for the Girlfriend and her eyes
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:05 pm
by Keith B
While Fox and Hound serves food, I can tell you it is not near enough to be 51%. Lots of alcohol sales, so I am sure it is off limits.
Re: 2 points for the Girlfriend and her eyes
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:08 pm
by Kythas
Not sure which Fox and Hound you were at, but the one at Midway and Rosemeade in Dallas has the 51% sign just above eye level on the wall opposite the front door.
F&H is absolutely 51%. Plenty of people go there on weekends to watch college football and pro football, and happy hours during the week. Most of the food they sell is regular bar food, though they do have some other fancier stuff on the menu, but I can easily believe they're a 51% establishment.
Re: 2 points for the Girlfriend and her eyes
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:25 pm
by One Shot
Had the same reaction seeing a 51% sign at Stone Werks (1604/Blanco) in San Antonio. The sign is on the wall inside the door at knee level, behind a plant. I've looked on other occasions and not spotted it. Granted the bar is large and popular, but it is also a full service restaurant. By the way, is revenue gross sales or profit?
I'm tending not to carry inside if I can't find one sign or the other.
One Shot
Re: 2 points for the Girlfriend and her eyes
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:24 pm
by NcongruNt
One Shot wrote:Had the same reaction seeing a 51% sign at Stone Werks (1604/Blanco) in San Antonio. The sign is on the wall inside the door at knee level, behind a plant. I've looked on other occasions and not spotted it. Granted the bar is large and popular, but it is also a full service restaurant. By the way, is revenue gross sales or profit?
I'm tending not to carry inside if I can't find one sign or the other.
One Shot
Sales. There are places that make no profits. It would be kinda hard to determine what 51% is then, eh?
GC 411.204. NOTICE REQUIRED ON CERTAIN PREMISES.
(a) A business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter
25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, and that derives 51
percent or more of its income from the sale of alcoholic beverages for
on-premises consumption as determined by the Texas Alcoholic
Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage
Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the business
premises a sign that complies with the requirements of Subsection (c).
(b) A hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code,
or a nursing home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety
Code, shall pmminently display at each entrance to the hospital or
nursing home, as appropriate, a sign that complies with the require-
ments of Subsection (c) other than the requirement that the sign
include on its face the number "51".
(c) The sign required under Subsections (a) and (b) must give
notice in both English and Spanish that it is unlawful for a person
licensed under this subchapter to carry a handgun on the premises.
The sign must appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least
one inch in height and must include on its face the number "51" printed
in solid red at least five inches in height. The sign shall be displayed in
a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.
(d) A business that has a permit or license issued under the Alco-
holic Beverage Code and that is not required to display a sign under
this section may be required to display a sign under Section 11.041 or
61. ll,Alcoholic Beverage Code.
(e) This section does not apply to a business that has a food and
beverage certificate issued under the Alcoholic Beverage Code.
Re: 2 points for the Girlfriend and her eyes
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:32 pm
by pbwalker
One Shot wrote:Had the same reaction seeing a 51% sign at Stone Werks (1604/Blanco) in San Antonio. The sign is on the wall inside the door at knee level, behind a plant. I've looked on other occasions and not spotted it. Granted the bar is large and popular, but it is also a full service restaurant. By the way, is revenue gross sales or profit?
I'm tending not to carry inside if I can't find one sign or the other.
One Shot
Oh crap. I never saw a sign there. Well, the food was gross, so I will not be going back.