Political Bumper Stickers could make you a target

[John]

Careful folks he might be part of Obama's "Civilian National Security Force" trolling for desinters.

[flintknapper]

Careful folks he might be part of Obama's "Civilian National Security Force" trolling for desinters.

Well...........he came to the right place then.

There may be a few Obama supporters here....but at least they are cordial.

[Liberty]

Do you really expect to see an informed Obama supporter?

[longtooth]

Yes there are some.
I have talked to several that openly tell me the socialist sharing the wealth from the rich to them the poor is what they DESERVE. I had a man that all he had ever done was chg oil in company vehicles & keep a shop clean tell me they ought to pay him 18 or 20 dollars an hr so he could make a living for his family. (& for those that picture a black there, shame on you, he was white & wanting the free to them that we pay for.) Aint no free lunch.

There really are a lot of folks out there that are well informed & know exactly why they are voting for him. That is why we are in the trouble we are in.

[bdickens]

...I had a man that all he had ever done was chg oil in company vehicles & keep a shop clean tell me they ought to pay him 18 or 20 dollars an hr so he could make a living for his family....

If changing oil and sweeping floors is worth $20/hr, then what I do is worth $100!

[Charles L. Cotton]

The strangest thing I have seen so far in this election was a Kia SUV with an Obama/Biden sticker right next to the NRA sticker in the back window. How is that for an uninformed voter!

This is childlike thinking. Like when kids think that Dogs and Cats always hate each other (unless of course they have a dog and a cat as pets)

The die hard republican really created their own mess. If you all really wanted a theocracy you should have started a long time ago. This country is a Democracy and as such the votes count (most of the time) Your all simply out numbered now. I guess all of the Die hards could move to Alaska and merge the cessation party with the republican party and all live in theocratic bliss. You could call it the Republic of Alaska.

If you want to stay on the forum, and I doubt you do, then do the following:

1. Change your screen name. (I'll have to do it for you, so tell me what you want.) It's fine for you to be the voice of the opposition, but combining that roll with your screen name results in an insult to the rest of the members.

2. Don't make another personal attack on anyone -- not one. If you can't state your position respectfully, then don't post.

3. Don't be a troll. Posting something like "the Die hards could move to Alaska and merge the cession party with the republican party . . ." is clearly designed to start a fight and it's trolling. You are neither funny nor enlightening.

You clearly think you are the only voice for the Democrat Party but that proves you haven't bothered to research the opinions expressed on the TexasCHLforum before joining and immediately violating our rules. There are a number of Democrats on the forum and they present their positions and beliefs respectfully. They are members of our "family" regardless of their party affiliation. There are Libertarians that do likewise. Contrary to your snide remark, TexasCHLforum is not an extension of the Pachyderm Club, though I suspect the majority of members vote for more Republican candidates than they do Democrats. I must admit, even the Democrats on the forum agree that Obama would be the most anti-gun President this country has ever seen. Trying to argue otherwise is as futile as arguing that the sun doesn't rise in the east, but do so if you wish just do it respectfully.

Before you head down the First Amendment road, let me save you the trouble. The First Amendment applies only to government action, not our rules on this forum. Nevertheless, we don't engage in wholesale restrictions on opinions you can express. We do care how you state those opinions. You can express almost any opinion that doesn't violate the rules of the forum. Please take the time to read those rules and you will see very little content restrictions. Even the restrictions on how opinions can be expressed are designed to ensure that discussions don't become personal attacks or contain profanity.

All that said, you must understand that coming to TexasCHLforum and trying to support someone like Obama is not going to garner much support for your position. It would be like me going to speak at "Reverend" Wright's church and telling his congregation that he is an anti-American, racist liar and expecting a warm welcome. As long as you can accept that your position will be in the minority and you do not lash out with insults, personal attacks, or lies, then you are welcome.

If I don't hear from you today about a new screen name, then I will take it that you don't want to remain on the forum.

Chas.

[nitrogen]

People get way too worked up over politics, and forget their civility. Thanks for the reminder.

Although I'd disagree on much political issues with these folks outside of guns, just about everyone here is awesome. I've met a few folks already (longtooth, carlson1, etc) and hope to make it to a Chlforum day in Friendswood someday.

Stick around, man. Hearing the ideas from people that think differently than you can only enrich you.

[bradfromearth]

The strangest thing I have seen so far in this election was a Kia SUV with an Obama/Biden sticker right next to the NRA sticker in the back window. How is that for an uninformed voter!

This is childlike thinking. Like when kids think that Dogs and Cats always hate each other (unless of course they have a dog and a cat as pets)

The die hard republican really created their own mess. If you all really wanted a theocracy you should have started a long time ago. This country is a Democracy and as such the votes count (most of the time) Your all simply out numbered now. I guess all of the Die hards could move to Alaska and merge the cessation party with the republican party and all live in theocratic bliss. You could call it the Republic of Alaska.

If you want to stay on the forum, and I doubt you do, then do the following:

1. Change your screen name. (I'll have to do it for you, so tell me what you want.) It's fine for you to be the voice of the opposition, but combining that roll with your screen name results in an insult to the rest of the members.

2. Don't make another personal attack on anyone -- not one. If you can't state your position respectfully, then don't post.

3. Don't be a troll. Posting something like "the Die hards could move to Alaska and merge the cession party with the republican party . . ." is clearly designed to start a fight and it's trolling. You are neither funny nor enlightening.

You clearly think you are the only voice for the Democrat Party but that proves you haven't bothered to research the opinions expressed on the TexasCHLforum before joining and immediately violating our rules. There are a number of Democrats on the forum and they present their positions and beliefs respectfully. They are members of our "family" regardless of their party affiliation. There are Libertarians that do likewise. Contrary to your snide remark, TexasCHLforum is not an extension of the Pachyderm Club, though I suspect the majority of members vote for more Republican candidates than they do Democrats. I must admit, even the Democrats on the forum agree that Obama would be the most anti-gun President this country has ever seen. Trying to argue otherwise is as futile as arguing that the sun doesn't rise in the east, but do so if you wish just do it respectfully.

Before you head down the First Amendment road, let me save you the trouble. The First Amendment applies only to government action, not our rules on this forum. Nevertheless, we don't engage in wholesale restrictions on opinions you can express. We do care how you state those opinions. You can express almost any opinion that doesn't violate the rules of the forum. Please take the time to read those rules and you will see very little content restrictions. Even the restrictions on how opinions can be expressed are designed to ensure that discussions don't become personal attacks or contain profanity.

All that said, you must understand that coming to TexasCHLforum and trying to support someone like Obama is not going to garner much support for your position. It would be like me going to speak at "Reverend" Wright's church and telling his congregation that he is an anti-American, racist liar and expecting a warm welcome. As long as you can accept that your position will be in the minority and you do not lash out with insults, personal attacks, or lies, then you are welcome.

If I don't hear from you today about a new screen name, then I will take it that you don't want to remain on the forum.

Chas.

Chas
Why would you assume that I do not want a presence on this forum?
Why would I or why should I change my screen name. Is it offensive?

"2. Don't make another personal attack on anyone -- not one. If you can't state your position respectfully, then don't post."

Does an Obama support count as anyone?

"As long as you can accept that your position will be in the minority and you do not lash out with insults, personal attacks, or lies, then you are welcome."

I have not done it but I am sure that if I searched the forum I could find many instances of very disparaging remarks about Obama supporters. I will however respect the rules myself and ensure that my commentary is non-personal to ensure no one is offended.

I think the core issue here is that it all goes both ways. That is the thing that a true patriot never forgets, that is that you cannot have freedom and yet opress those same freedoms for others. If you want to "vote my mouth shut" by deleting my posts or my account then that is your right. A right that I would personally go to war to defend. I don't think it would be in the best interest of good healthy debate to. Just like playing a game with only opponents you can beat. It does not serve to make your game any better.

I also do not think the folks on this board have weak stomachs. After all it is a board for those who are or desire to be liscensed to carry a firearm concealed. I know that I went through a mental process of deciding if I was willing to actually end the life of another man, if it came to it. I would not be willing to carry and not willing to shoot. I think the majority of folks faced the same realities with themselves. Not all but most.

Let me know what you decide.


Brad

[bradfromearth]

Do you really expect to see an informed Obama supporter?

"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." John F. Kennedy:

I saw your signature line and wanted to ask you. Considering the fact that JKF was a Democrat and that if alive today would more than likely be an Obama supporter. Would you consider JFK and informed Obama supporter?

[bradfromearth]

The strangest thing I have seen so far in this election was a Kia SUV with an Obama/Biden sticker right next to the NRA sticker in the back window. How is that for an uninformed voter!

If you want to stay on the forum, and I doubt you do, then do the following:

1. Change your screen name. (I'll have to do it for you, so tell me what you want.) It's fine for you to be the voice of the opposition, but combining that roll with your screen name results in an insult to the rest of the members.

I did not notice this before.

I have had that screen name for years. I even have the domain name bradfromearth.com which has been registered since 04-feb-2006.

It also plays into the idea that "all men are created equal" My proclomation is that I am Brad, from earth, just like every other man woman and child on earth. You know the opposite of I am Brad from "the rich part of town" (Park Avenue) or "the tough part of town" (Bronx).

It has never been meant to offend anyone.

[flintknapper]

bradfromearth wrote:

I joined the forum for information not political fear mongering.

BFE,

What is your purpose here? Exactly what "information" do you seek?

If you have questions with regards to Concealed Carry or personal protection please ask them.

If you seek information of a political nature please say so....and stop lecturing us.

State your intentions and make your point Sir!


Flint.

[Charles L. Cotton]

I think the core issue here is that it all goes both ways. That is the thing that a true patriot never forgets, that is that you cannot have freedom and yet opress those same freedoms for others. If you want to "vote my mouth shut" by deleting my posts or my account then that is your right. A right that I would personally go to war to defend. I don't think it would be in the best interest of good healthy debate to. Just like playing a game with only opponents you can beat. It does not serve to make your game any better.

Keep your sanctimonious garbage to yourself. I'm trying not to "vote [your] mouth shut" but you're making it hard. You don't know the first thing about me, you just join our forum and immediately violate our rules. Then you complain when our members let you know they don't appreciate it. In all candor, if this is an example of you you're going to act here, then I'm going to ban you now. Apparently, you don't know how to engage in a discussion without condescending, insulting garbage. Do it one more time and you silence your own voice here.

Chas.

[Crossfire]

I would not be willing to carry and not willing to shoot.

Then, why are you here?

[KC5AV]

I would not be willing to carry and not willing to shoot.

Then, why are you here?

I wonder if that was just an awkward of saying he wouldn't be willing to carry unless he was willing to shoot.