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I am currently in Afghanistan and so far the whole deployment my boss says he doesnt have any guns cause he wife doesnt want them in the house. I say cool that your choice. Well out of nowhere today he says he wants to get a handgun for his wife, so we start discussing it and he says he is not going to research it cause he was going to leave that up to his wife, which is understandable. Her gun her decision. Then he goes to tell me that he wants to buy it in Texas and then get it registered in Oklahoma cause thats where she lives. Now correct me if i am wrong but, isnt Oklahoma just like texas in the fact that you dont have to register a handgun? He told me he would feel safter about it being registered in case it was stolen and used in a crime. I dont know, just my rant. Any thoughts?

Uh, that does not sound right. But I am not an expert on Oklahoma law. I have friends up there and they certainly do not register their guns nor have they ever mentioned it. Someone else will chime in I am sure.

TexasGal wrote:Uh, that does not sound right. But I am not an expert on Oklahoma law. I have friends up there and they certainly do not register their guns nor have they ever mentioned it. Someone else will chime in I am sure.

No, guns in Oklahoma don't have to be registered, nor can they be unless they're Title III weapons regulated by the feds.

People who come from formerly free states like NY, NJ, etc. think guns everywhere must be registered.

They are astonished when they find that there are still a few pockets of freedom in the country.

I know people who have never stepped foot out of Texas who think all guns are registered when you purchase them. This lack of education may be the very reason gun registration laws pass one day. People won't be opposed because they think it is already happening.

ok, thats what i though. for some reason he is determined to get it registered. i know it would not make me feel any safer.

If she is an Oklahoma resident she will have to buy it in Oklahoma OR buy it in Texas and have the dealer transfer it to an FFL in Oklahoma for her to do the paperwork. Parties cannot buy a handgun in another state without it being transfered to a dealer in their state.

jmra wrote:I know people who have never stepped foot out of Texas who think all guns are registered when you purchase them. This lack of education may be the very reason gun registration laws pass one day. People won't be opposed because they think it is already happening.

And even unto very old Perry Mason TV shows, all guns were registered and instantly traceable.

jimlongley wrote:

jmra wrote:I know people who have never stepped foot out of Texas who think all guns are registered when you purchase them. This lack of education may be the very reason gun registration laws pass one day. People won't be opposed because they think it is already happening.

And even unto very old Perry Mason TV shows, all guns were registered and instantly traceable.

Just ask anyone on the CSI family of tv shows. They will tell you the facts.

Anygunanywhere

dpleban wrote:ok, thats what i though. for some reason he is determined to get it registered. i know it would not make me feel any safer.

Registered with who?

dpleban wrote:ok, thats what i though. for some reason he is determined to get it registered. i know it would not make me feel any safer.

You CAN'T register a weapon if there is no legal avenue written into the law for doing so. Neither Texas nor Oklahoma have that legal avenue. So it doesn't matter if he buys it in Texas or in Oklahoma—or if they settle in Texas or Oklahoma—he can't register the gun. If he walked into the local cop shop and said "I want to register this pistol," they wouldn't know what to do with that request except to tell him that they can't do it.

It would be like saying "I want to register this cucumber."

What? Come again?

It serves as a reminder to me of how we take our freedoms and knowledge base for granted. As a Texas resident, I've always "known" I don't have to register my guns, nor do I need a "permit" to buy any more guns, and that I can make a private-party deal with anyone I feel comfortable buying from or selling to.

But as the "go to" guy in certain circles, people ask me ALL THE TIME what they need to do to be able to buy a gun. Even Texas residents that have never lived (or even been) anywhere else are shocked when I tell them that they just go to a gun store, pick out a gun, fill out a 4473, show a DL, pony up the cash, and head home with their new gun.

Too much pop culture telling people that all guns can be traced, all guns are registered, everyone has to have a license or permit, etc. etc. When you point out that none of this is true, they're shocked. I actually think the "assumption" that guns are registered, licensed, and traceable is part of the reason there's so little pushback from outside our culture when new regulations are proposed -- after all, if you already have to register, be licensed to buy, etc., what's the big to-do about another law???

My overall point here is this: We take our "expertise" for granted--most of us have forgotten more about guns, shooting, shooting sports, self defense, and the laws around all of it than the average layman will ever know. Although I never have really considered myself an "expert," its been pointed out to me that I am indeed the expert in most social environments--and this is true of all of us.

The Annoyed Man wrote:
It would be like saying "I want to register this cucumber."

What? Come again?

Love that line!!!

Well i finially got him convinced. He did not want to take my word for it. Showed him in black and white and he just said oh ok cool. I think hes just been in the army long enough and thats all he knows. I have much respect for the guy, but if its not military or cars hes kinda lost. I think hes starting to realize that i know what im talking about at least most of the time lol.

dpleban wrote:Well i finially got him convinced. He did not want to take my word for it. Showed him in black and white and he just said oh ok cool. I think hes just been in the army long enough and thats all he knows. I have much respect for the guy, but if its not military or cars hes kinda lost. I think hes starting to realize that i know what im talking about at least most of the time lol.

In fairness to your friend, if most of his weapons processing knowledge was acquired while in the military, then he is used to a system (as opposed to the individual) which attempts to account for the location of all weaponry at all times, and in which people have to sign things out and then return them for locked storage. If that is the general experience for him, then it would be natural for him to assume that they are as tightly controlled in the civilian world.

He told me he would feel safter about it being registered in case it was stolen and used in a crime.

The legal owner simply needs to keep the serial number of the firearm in his own personal records.

If the sad day ever comes when the gun is stolen, he may then provide the serial number to the Okie LEO's at that time. Simple.

Glad I could help. :-)

SIA