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First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport TSA

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:18 pm
by steveincowtown
I fly a lot...as in 1.3 Million miles in the past 7 years. I check a gun or multiple guns every time I fly, depending on if I am travelling for work or pleasure.

Headed home for Christmas today so I brought an Scoped AR, a Scoped 10/22, and two Glocks; all in one case.


Easy breezy at the check in counter. As always I ask for Firearms Dec card, and as always the agent handed one over relatively descreetly. Agent calls out "oversize" and someone comes over to walk me to the TSA drop for oversize bags.

Arrive at drop off and the agent says, "I'll need your keys to unlock the case." TSA policy at DFW airport is that they do NOT open a rifle case. I tell him that is not the procedure. He snaps back "That's how I do it." I calmly reply "Could you grab a supervisor?"

He calls supervisor and the supervisor reaffirms what I told him about the policy. He swabs the the outside of the case and then tells me I good to go.

I start to walk off and immediately turn around to make sure he puts my case on the belt (I had a case broken into at DFW about 3 months ago). He launches my case from at least 5' away and every bit of 5' in the air. This of course makes me livid.

I told him that I will need that supervisor to come down. He replies " The supervisor doesn't want to come down." I reply " Get him here now, or I will gladly meet him where he is."

Supervisor comes down and I ask politely ask him two questions.

#1) Is it TSA's policy to let individual Officers (chuckle) make up policies? If not, could he review their checked weapons policy with everyone under him.

He responds no, and to his credit seemed upset at the guy.

#2) I informed him that the during the Officer's little temper tantrum he had thrown my gun case. I then asked the supervisor if he had something valuable that he cared for and had entrusted to a federal employee how he would feel to see it being flung about.

Again the supervisor seemed concerned and told me that neither problem would happen again.

TSA= :biggrinjester:

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:20 pm
by C-dub
Sorry that happened. I hope everything was undamaged. And I hope that the supervisor will honor his word.

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:23 pm
by MadMonkey
C-dub wrote:And I hope that the supervisor will honor his word.
He's TSA as well, so.... yeah... :???:

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:31 pm
by steveincowtown
C-dub wrote:Sorry that happened. I hope everything was undamaged. And I hope that the supervisor will honor his word.
I read folks pretty well, and I think he will follow through. He went straight into the area where the other Officer (chuckle again...I can't help it. How can these guys share this title with true LEOs?) was shut the door behind him.

I am literally at DFW airport 2x a week, so I am going to make it a point to stop back by and say hi to the supervisor. He seemed very genuine.

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:20 pm
by handog
:blowup TSA workers work for 11.00 per Hr. Most don't give a #2 about our stuff. Normally the lack of respect for others property takes affect behind our backs. It doesn't sound like a gun issue. Just ignorance.

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:31 pm
by KRM45
Interesting... I've never been able to travel with a gun without opening the case. I even got called back from the gate to open a locked case at the airport in Providence RI.

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:41 pm
by urnoodle
steveincowtown wrote:Headed home for Christmas today so I brought an Scoped AR, a Scoped 10/22, and two Glocks; all in one case.
If you don't mind me asking, what kind of case do you use? I may have to fly home on a short notice for a family members surgical procedure. I've been looking for a case that would hold about the same what you took with you (except swap the glocks for 1911s :mrgreen: ). I've been looking at pelican cases but I haven't seen one that looks like it can carry 2 rifles and 2 handguns. I'm not a very strong woman so I'm looking for something with wheels.

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:44 pm
by C-dub
urnoodle wrote:
steveincowtown wrote:Headed home for Christmas today so I brought an Scoped AR, a Scoped 10/22, and two Glocks; all in one case.
If you don't mind me asking, what kind of case do you use? I may have to fly home on a short notice for a family members surgical procedure. I've been looking for a case that would hold about the same what you took with you (except swap the glocks for 1911s :mrgreen: ). I've been looking at pelican cases but I haven't seen one that looks like it can carry 2 rifles and 2 handguns. I'm not a very strong woman so I'm looking for something with wheels.
Depending on how your rifles are set up, try the Pelican 1750.

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:49 pm
by steveincowtown
It does have wheels, is not Pelican and is $99 at Acadmey. I'll post pics in the morning.

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:55 pm
by urnoodle
:tiphat: I'll look at both these. If I can get something a little cheaper than a Pelican than I'll take a look. It may mean the left over $ can go to a box of ammo or 2. I'm going to look at that Pelican too. I like the durability of Pelican cases but they can get expensive.

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:33 pm
by JJVP
steveincowtown wrote:It does have wheels, is not Pelican and is $99 at Acadmey. I'll post pics in the morning.
This one?


http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/store ... =626381017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:40 am
by mojo84
Man, you were hauling some "heavy assault weapons". ;)

Hope they arrived undamaged.

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:02 am
by steveincowtown
JJVP wrote:
steveincowtown wrote:It does have wheels, is not Pelican and is $99 at Acadmey. I'll post pics in the morning.
This one?


http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/store ... =626381017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Exactly! Thanks for doing the leg work.

1/2 the price of the Pelican and IMHO nearly as good. 2 locking latches, plus two padlock loops. Wheels to roll, etc.

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:22 am
by RX8er
Sorry you had such a bad experience with TSA.... Let's face it, most of the federal employees in the TSA can't even spell T.S.A. :lol:

Glad to know there is another road warrior close. Let's have coffee sometime at DFW. I do about 130,000 - 200,000 a year depending on Europe and Asia trips..

Re: First bad experience checking guns....ever. DFW Airport

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:36 am
by RoyGBiv
KRM45 wrote:Interesting... I've never been able to travel with a gun without opening the case. I even got called back from the gate to open a locked case at the airport in Providence RI.
I've never been asked to open my case (nanovault).
Strange, indeed.