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John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to ATX

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:15 am
by Codename46
The University of Texas chapter of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus is hosting John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", is coming to Austin as a guest speaker.

It will be from 6-7PM tomorrow (Tuesday) at the University of Texas School of Law TNH 2.114 (Auditorium) (Map)

Street address is 727 East Dean Keeton Street

Additional Details

If you're in the Austin area I encourage you to attend.

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:27 am
by Purplehood
Codename46 wrote:The University of Texas chapter of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus is hosting John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", is coming to Austin as a guest speaker.

It will be from 6-7PM tomorrow (Tuesday) at the University of Texas School of Law TNH 2.114 (Auditorium) (Map)

Street address is 727 East Dean Keeton Street

Additional Details

If you're in the Austin area I encourage you to attend.
But don't carry! :evil2:

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:34 am
by A-R
Purplehood beat me to it, but I gotta wonder why this is being held "on campus" where carry is restricted. I'd like to hear the guy speak, but won't be venturing into the gun-free zone to do so.

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:42 am
by Codename46
austinrealtor wrote:Purplehood beat me to it, but I gotta wonder why this is being held "on campus" where carry is restricted. I'd like to hear the guy speak, but won't be venturing into the gun-free zone to do so.
Unfortunately that will be the case. Sorry guys. If you think that's bad, imagine being a full-time college student with a CHL being unable to carry on almost a daily basis.

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:46 am
by 74novaman
Codename46 wrote:
austinrealtor wrote:Purplehood beat me to it, but I gotta wonder why this is being held "on campus" where carry is restricted. I'd like to hear the guy speak, but won't be venturing into the gun-free zone to do so.
Unfortunately that will be the case. Sorry guys. If you think that's bad, imagine being a full-time college student with a CHL being unable to carry on almost a daily basis.
Been there, done that. :totap:

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:50 am
by A-R
yep, four years of it for me too (actually, five, but I lost some credits in transfer, and changed majors, and really no one actually graduates in four years and .... :lol: )

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:07 am
by E.Marquez
Codename46 wrote:
austinrealtor wrote:Purplehood beat me to it, but I gotta wonder why this is being held "on campus" where carry is restricted. I'd like to hear the guy speak, but won't be venturing into the gun-free zone to do so.
Unfortunately that will be the case. Sorry guys. If you think that's bad, imagine being a full-time college student with a CHL being unable to carry on almost a daily basis.
Truly, IMHO, a bone head move in the organizers part.
I applaud the work required (and likely cost) to get this speaker to an engagement with the intended audience. But the choice of venue that automatically alienates a major part of the demographics you want to attract seems misguided.

If holding this event in a location that specifically forbids the right to carry a concealed weapon was a planned , calculated part of the mission statement.. Then, well.. I guess you got what you wanted.. I truly hope you get the audience you wanted and folks benefit from the speaking engagement.
Though I was interested in coming up for this when I first read the thread.. Due to location of the venue, I’ll pass.

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:19 am
by A-R
Tell Bill Powers I said "hi" and that he's still wrong ... viewtopic.php?f=90&t=25100&p=285317&hil ... rs#p285317" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Maybe if a few of the UT football players had been carrying they could've stopped UCLA from scoring :evil2: (sorry, couldn't resist)

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:38 am
by Codename46
bronco78 wrote:
Codename46 wrote:
austinrealtor wrote:Purplehood beat me to it, but I gotta wonder why this is being held "on campus" where carry is restricted. I'd like to hear the guy speak, but won't be venturing into the gun-free zone to do so.
Unfortunately that will be the case. Sorry guys. If you think that's bad, imagine being a full-time college student with a CHL being unable to carry on almost a daily basis.
Truly, IMHO, a bone head move in the organizers part.
I applaud the work required (and likely cost) to get this speaker to an engagement with the intended audience. But the choice of venue that automatically alienates a major part of the demographics you want to attract seems misguided.

If holding this event in a location that specifically forbids the right to carry a concealed weapon was a planned , calculated part of the mission statement.. Then, well.. I guess you got what you wanted.. I truly hope you get the audience you wanted and folks benefit from the speaking engagement.
Though I was interested in coming up for this when I first read the thread.. Due to location of the venue, I’ll pass.
I respectfully disagree with your assessment.

There are very limited options in terms of venue location that is within walking distance from the UT campus, can accommodate approximately 100 people, and won't cost an arm and a leg to reserve (an "arm and a leg" in this case would be anything more than $50 since, as a grassroots organization, we get next to no funding). Why should it be held within walking distance? Because most of the students who live on campus don't have a car, and we wouldn't be allowed to advertise the event on any UT calendar if it is held at an off-campus location. We chose this location for logistical reasons.

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:06 pm
by E.Marquez
Codename46 wrote:
I respectfully disagree with your assessment.
The decision to hold the event in venue that goes against the very thing you are trying to bring to social attention seems contrary to good sense, but if the choice was there or nowhere........ :thumbs2: I guess I can see the compromise.

Codename46 wrote: There are very limited options in terms of venue location that is within walking distance from the UT campus, can accommodate approximately 100 people, and won't cost an arm and a leg to reserve (an "arm and a leg" in this case would be anything more than $50 since, as a grassroots organization, we get next to no funding). Why should it be held within walking distance? Because most of the students who live on campus don't have a car, and we wouldn't be allowed to advertise the event on any UT calendar if it is held at an off-campus location. We chose this location for logistical reasons.
My assessment was valid, opinionated, and seems to be on track with what you did.
If holding this event in a location that specifically forbids the right to carry a concealed weapon was a planned, calculated part of the mission statement..
It's a choice you made; I truly hope it works out for you. Great effort for a good cause :txflag:

Best of luck.. I truly hope you have great success and fill the venue to capacity.

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:07 pm
by OldCannon
I would go, but it seems limited to just UT students and staff.

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:13 pm
by Matt78665
Could I get confirmation? Is this ONLY for students and faculty or can non-students go as well? I think I could make an exception and go to a non-carry area for this good cause.

:txflag: :patriot:

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:23 pm
by OldCannon
Matt78665 wrote:Could I get confirmation? Is this ONLY for students and faculty or can non-students go as well? I think I could make an exception and go to a non-carry area for this good cause.

:txflag: :patriot:
It's John Lott speaking. I'd go even if he was speaking at the Brady Campaign Headquarters building (so long as I didn't have to give those clowns money)

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:15 pm
by CompVest
I think it is great that the talk is being held in a "gun free zone". The college is allowing the event. This is another step in the right direction. More and more colleges are allowing more and more gun related activities such as the classroom portion of the CHL class and gun clubs. The more the message is heard on campus the more support generated for Campus Carry.

Re: John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime", coming to

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:36 pm
by Codename46
The event is open to everyone. The School of Law is being bureaucratic and have been throughout the process. We will also be selling Students for Concealed Carry on Campus t-shirts for $10. Also there will be pizza.

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Thanks everyone for their support.
CompVest wrote:I think it is great that the talk is being held in a "gun free zone". The college is allowing the event. This is another step in the right direction. More and more colleges are allowing more and more gun related activities such as the classroom portion of the CHL class and gun clubs. The more the message is heard on campus the more support generated for Campus Carry.
We hosted a CHL class on campus last semester and had 60 students and faculty members take the class. We are going to do it again next spring right when the Legislative session opens. If anyone has taken a class with a CHL Instructor named Michael Cargill, please thank him for all the support he's given us.