Another reason to hate California.
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Another reason to hate California.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327347,00.html
BERKELEY, Calif. — Local officials in this liberal city say it's time for the U.S. Marines to move out.
The City Council has voted to tell the Marines their downtown recruiting station is not welcome and "if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests."
The measure passed this week by a vote of 8-1.
The council also voted to explore enforcing a city anti-discrimination law, focusing on the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
In a separate item, the council voted, also 8-1, to give protest group Code Pink a parking space in front of the recruiting office once a week for six months and a free sound permit for protesting once a week.
Marine Capt. Richard Lund of the recruiting office declined comment on the council action.
The recruiting office opened in Berkeley about a year ago, operating quietly until about four months ago when Code Pink began regular sidewalk protests.
"I believe in the Code Pink cause. The Marines don't belong here, they shouldn't have come here, and they should leave," said Berkeley Mayor Tom Bates.
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This story makes me sick to my stomach, to think that there are people who have a mentality like this is mind boggling. They dont want any guns in their state and now allow a bunch of morons to harass our servicemen? They even give them a parking space right in front of the recruiting station. Some big wig in DC wants to take away their 2 million dollars in federal funding this year, which I hope to God happens, these people dont deserve money from our government. They have a right to practice their 1st amendment rights yes...but to kick out the very people who chose to fight and die for those rights?
It makes me furious they they allow such a gross display, because they are exercising their rights...yet allow such a HUGE amount of gun laws to be passed hampering the 2nd amendment, where the heck is the common sense in the state of California?
BERKELEY, Calif. — Local officials in this liberal city say it's time for the U.S. Marines to move out.
The City Council has voted to tell the Marines their downtown recruiting station is not welcome and "if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests."
The measure passed this week by a vote of 8-1.
The council also voted to explore enforcing a city anti-discrimination law, focusing on the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
In a separate item, the council voted, also 8-1, to give protest group Code Pink a parking space in front of the recruiting office once a week for six months and a free sound permit for protesting once a week.
Marine Capt. Richard Lund of the recruiting office declined comment on the council action.
The recruiting office opened in Berkeley about a year ago, operating quietly until about four months ago when Code Pink began regular sidewalk protests.
"I believe in the Code Pink cause. The Marines don't belong here, they shouldn't have come here, and they should leave," said Berkeley Mayor Tom Bates.
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This story makes me sick to my stomach, to think that there are people who have a mentality like this is mind boggling. They dont want any guns in their state and now allow a bunch of morons to harass our servicemen? They even give them a parking space right in front of the recruiting station. Some big wig in DC wants to take away their 2 million dollars in federal funding this year, which I hope to God happens, these people dont deserve money from our government. They have a right to practice their 1st amendment rights yes...but to kick out the very people who chose to fight and die for those rights?
It makes me furious they they allow such a gross display, because they are exercising their rights...yet allow such a HUGE amount of gun laws to be passed hampering the 2nd amendment, where the heck is the common sense in the state of California?
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Re: Another reason to hate California.
This Country (as we know it) is going downhill fast! I see no end to it!
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Re: Another reason to hate California.
As an observation that has proven itself over my entire life, in any group of more than 5 participants, there will typically be at least one that is going to be singled out as sub-standard and picked on. I saw it in grade school, high school, college, and in business.
It's too bad that at a "Country" level, California makes it sooo easy to narrow the choice.
It's too bad that at a "Country" level, California makes it sooo easy to narrow the choice.
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What a bunch of liberal pukes!!
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There isn't any, and there hasn't been any for quite a long time. That's why I moved out California in mid 2006. I had lived there most of my life, and I was "up to here" with the state's nonsense. I had to go back there on business for a week in early November. All it did was reinforce in my mind why I left. It's a dirty state. The streets are dirty. The air is dirty. There's graffiti everywhere, trash everywhere, etc. It's just ugly. All the rest of my family still lives there, but I'll never go back.AFJailor wrote:...where the heck is the common sense in the state of California?
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It has to be imported, so there is always a short supply.
...where the heck is the common sense in the state of California?
It has to be imported, so there is always a short supply.
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The only thing not imported is the fruits and nuts, they are all home grown.
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Lets see these spineless pinheads put their money where their mouths are...if they have a spine..they will stand by their words and loose federal funding..my bet is they will fold like a house of cardsFriday , February 01, 2008
WASHINGTON —
U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., says the City of Berkeley, Calif., no longer deserves federal money. DeMint was angered after learning that the Berkeley City Council voted this week to tell the U.S. Marine Corps to remove its recruiting station from the city's downtown.
"This is a slap in the face to all brave service men and women and their families," DeMint said in a prepared statement. "The First Amendment gives the City of Berkeley the right to be idiotic, but from now on they should do it with their own money."
"If the city can’t show respect for the Marines that have fought, bled and died for their freedom, Berkeley should not be receiving special taxpayer-funded handouts," he added.
In the meantime, a senior Marine official tells FOX News that the Marine office in Berkeley isn't going anywhere.
"We understand things are different there, but some people just don't get it. This is a part of the military machine that gives them the right to do what they do, but what they are doing is extreme," the official said.
DeMint said he will draft legislation to rescind any earmarks dedicated for the City of Berkeley in the recently passed appropriations bill — which his office tallied to value about $2.1 million. He said that any money taken back would be transferred to the Marines.
DeMint's office provided a preliminary list of items that would be subject to his proposal:
— $975,000 for the University of California at Berkeley, for the Matsui Center for Politics and Public Service, which may include establishing an endowment, and for cataloguing the papers of Congressman Robert Matsui.
— $750,000 for the Berkeley/Albana ferry service.
— $243,000 for the Chez Panisse Foundation, for a school lunch initiative to integrate lessons about wellness, sustainability and nutrition into the academic curriculum.
— $94,000 for a Berkeley public safety interoperability program.
— $87,000 for the Berkeley Unified School District, nutrition education program.
The Marine official, speaking with FOX News on Friday, said Marine Commandant Gen. James Conway scoffed at the news, but there are no plans for to protest the City Council's decisions. There are definitely no plans to move the recruiting station either.
"To actually put something into law that encourages the disruption of a federal office is ridiculous. They are not going to kick a federal office out of its rightful place there, and this is not going to discourage those young patriots who want to be Marines," the official said.
The Berkeley City Council this week voted to tell the Marines their downtown recruiting station is not welcome and "if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests," according to The Associated Press.
The council also voted to explore whether a city anti-discrimination law applies to the Marines, with a focus on the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy that prevents open homosexuality in the military.
The council also voted to give the antiwar group Code Pink a parking space in front of the recruiting office once a week for six months, as well as a protest permit.
The Marine recruiting office in Berkeley has been open for about one year, but has been the subject of recent protests by Code Pink members.
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Re: Another reason to hate California.
Now you know why I just left that state to move here to Texas. California is too expensive for what you have to deal with.
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I know it is easy to pick on California, but just because there are people there who are less then brillant by our standards should not lead to assuming the whole state is the same. I lived there for years and it is a beautiful state with wonderful friendly people that think the way we do. These people you don't hear about. They are not News worthy. I say don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
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CompVest wrote:I know it is easy to pick on California, but just because there are people there who are less then brillant by our standards should not lead to assuming the whole state is the same. I lived there for years and it is a beautiful state with wonderful friendly people that think the way we do. These people you don't hear about. They are not News worthy. I say don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Well....you certainly make a good point.
But, I can I at least use a strainer.
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yeah, my folks live there. as they get older, I wonder if I'll end up having to move there to help take care of Maw.....
FWIW, IIRC, AFAIK, FTMP, IANAL. YMMV.
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CompVest wrote:I know it is easy to pick on California, but just because there are people there who are less then brillant by our standards should not lead to assuming the whole state is the same. I lived there for years and it is a beautiful state with wonderful friendly people that think the way we do. These people you don't hear about. They are not News worthy. I say don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Of course you are right, outside of the main cities I understand are good and decent people.
Shriver is quite right though.
California first lady Maria Shriver endorsed Barack Obama for president on Sunday, calling him inspirational and a natural leader.
"I thought, if Barack Obama was a state, he'd be California," Shriver said, addressing thousands of people at a rally headlined by talk show host Oprah Winfrey.
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All the wierdos are in LA and SF (maybe some in Sacramento). Much of the rest of the state is about as conservative as TX. I suspect that's true of many of the so-called liberal states. The rural/small city population is pretty conservative, but the big cities are liberal. (IMHO)lawrnk wrote:Of course you are right, outside of the main cities I understand are good and decent people.
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The whole state isn't the same, but unfortunately, the intelligent minority is exactly that - a minority - and they allow themselves to be bullied pretty good by the commie pinko fascist hard left Dems in the inner cities and the state legislature... and I say that as a person who grew up in California and lived there almost my entire life, and who thinks that it is the prettiest state in the union. Purely in geographic terms, California has much to recommend it. And yes, there are plenty of wonderful and decent folks living there. But as a society as a whole, it is corrupt and beholden to race-baiters, commies, traitors, entitlements activists, and apologists for illegal immigration and all manner of sexual license. Madam Speaker Pelosi has been photographed marching next to the founder of NAMBLA (the North American Man/Boy Love Association) during gay pride parades. Today, Pelosi is much more the face of California than is any hard working conservative central valley rancher.CompVest wrote:I know it is easy to pick on California, but just because there are people there who are less then brillant by our standards should not lead to assuming the whole state is the same. I lived there for years and it is a beautiful state with wonderful friendly people that think the way we do. These people you don't hear about. They are not News worthy. I say don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
The reason this is so is that Edmund Burke's dictum has been fulfilled. Back when homosexual activism was unheard of, the "rights" of illegal aliens were non-existent, military service had a broad appeal, "pot" was something you cooked in, and common sense prevailed, it was noisy, loud, unpleasant, rude, and shameless activists who changed the political landscape in California from being one that was primarily right of center to being primarily hard left. In the face of that, otherwise decent people - Edmund Burke's "good men" - did nothing in kind, and evil triumphed. For California to recapture its right of center past, conservatives will have to become noisy, loud, unpleasant, rude, and shameless activists for the conservative cause. However, it is not in the conservative nature to be those things. Thus, evil triumphs. Yes, there are good people in the state of California, but they live within an evil culture, and (paraphrasing Matthew 10:14) they should leave and shake the state's dust off their feet...
...or... they should do whatever it takes to change the state. For my own part, I believe that it has gone well past the point of no return, and California cannot be salvaged. At all. Ever. So I left.
...not that I have an opinion about it one way or the other...
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