Drawing from holster disengages safety (??)

[RiverRat]

Ok. Hate to admit it, but after carrying Colts in my Mtac for the last couple of years, my new STI Guardian has come off safe three times this week. Back to the Defender or Commander. I can't have that happening.

[C-dub]

I remember reading this thread back in March and did not comment. However, now I'm still having trouble understanding the problem. If one has to draw their weapon isn't it cool that the holster will disengage the safety for you? Now, if it doesn't do it all the time I can see a problem.

What do I know, though, I carry a Glock.

[suthdj]

I remember reading this thread back in March and did not comment. However, now I'm still having trouble understanding the problem. If one has to draw their weapon isn't it cool that the holster will disengage the safety for you? Now, if it doesn't do it all the time I can see a problem.

What do I know, though, I carry a Glock.

I have a PT145 and have had the safety come off a few times. Then I read a thread here about having to know how to use all the type of weapons a person may own. The bottom line was I have 2 guns(Yes I know sad) 1 is a Glock-21 the other PT145 and no safety on the Glock to disengage, so I now carry the PT145 with safety off, just to keep it the same for both. So simple solution keep the safety off.

[Mike1951]

I remember reading this thread back in March and did not comment. However, now I'm still having trouble understanding the problem. If one has to draw their weapon isn't it cool that the holster will disengage the safety for you? Now, if it doesn't do it all the time I can see a problem.

What do I know, though, I carry a Glock.

Several times over the last week, when I remove my Kimber Pro Carry from its MTAC holster, the safety is disengaged.

I know that the safety was engaged when I holstered it.

Could the gun be too tight against the leather?

Referring to the OP, the problem as stated was finding the safety moved off during carry.

[A-R]

Funny, the safeties on my Glocks don't disengage when holsering in a Crossbreed. Gun just slides in, safety stays engaged 100% of the time. No worries.

[Keith]

Carry a Kimber CDP pro with a crossbreed and a Blackhawk Serpa holsters. I have never had either one pop my safey off. I do have ambi safetys.

[LarryH]

Two updates:

1. I adjusted the MTAC back to a two-hole difference on the struts (less forward cant than four-hole difference).

2. I now routinely verify that the safety is engaged after reholstering -- hadn't been doing that before.

[bdickens]

Funny, the safeties on my Glocks don't disengage when holsering in a Crossbreed. Gun just slides in, safety stays engaged 100% of the time. No worries.

Oh, but remember? Glocks don't have a safety. Regardless of what Glock GmbH calls those three parts.

[The Annoyed Man]

Ok. Hate to admit it, but after carrying Colts in my Mtac for the last couple of years, my new STI Guardian has come off safe three times this week. Back to the Defender or Commander. I can't have that happening.

It has happened to me with an MTAC, a Galco Royal Guard, a D.M. Bullard IWB, and a Galco Concealable Belt Holster and with both 3" and 5" 1911s. I've since made it a habit to discreetly check by feeling through my shirt if safety is on or off. If off, I switch it on. I do this when there is little or no chance of being observed doing it... ...like when sitting in my car, or in a restroom.

But neither do I worry about it. The gun can't go off by itself. There are three mechanical safeties involved; four if you count the firing pin block on the Kimber; and five if you count the one between my ears. (My Springfield covers the "need" for a firing pin block by using a light titanium firing pin and a heavy firing pin spring.) If I am drawing the gun for realz, the safety is coming off anyway; and if I am drawing it to put it away, part of the drill is good trigger discipline and making sure the pistol is safed when I handle it.

I've always attributed the issue to the fact that, as a left handed shooter, I require a 1911 with an ambidextrous safety. Thus, the "offside" safety, on the left side of the frame, is able to be affected by whatever I bump into during the day — such as the edge of my car seat when entering/exiting the vehicle, the arm of a chair, etc. In fact it has happened when I was carrying a USP Compact with an ambidextrous safety on it, in a Galco Summer Comfort, and MTAC, and a Desantis Speed Scabbard.

I would be curious to know how many right handed shooters who are having this same issue also have ambidextrous safeties on their guns? Someday, when I've won the government giveaway lottery and Obama sends me gozillions of your dollars ( ), I will buy myself a purely left handed, "mirror image" 1911. They are hard to find and pricey, but they're out there. I know somebody who has one.

[KFP]

I think I understand your holster mod AndyC, but would it be possible for you to post pics? Pretty please?

[Mike from Texas]

Have any of you contacted Comp-Tac? They were redesigning the MTAC 1911 design and they make take care of you anyway.

[LarryH]

My MTAC was purchased second-hand from a forum member, so don't think that avenue would work.

After things settle down around here, I'll probably just get another Infidel. I actually liked it better than the MTAC, but gave it to my brother, along with a Colt Government Model when we were home last September.

[RiverRat]

Ok. Hate to admit it, but after carrying Colts in my Mtac for the last couple of years, my new STI Guardian has come off safe three times this week. Back to the Defender or Commander. I can't have that happening.

It has happened to me with an MTAC, a Galco Royal Guard, a D.M. Bullard IWB, and a Galco Concealable Belt Holster and with both 3" and 5" 1911s. I've since made it a habit to discreetly check by feeling through my shirt if safety is on or off. If off, I switch it on. I do this when there is little or no chance of being observed doing it... ...like when sitting in my car, or in a restroom.

But neither do I worry about it. The gun can't go off by itself. There are three mechanical safeties involved; four if you count the firing pin block on the Kimber; and five if you count the one between my ears. (My Springfield covers the "need" for a firing pin block by using a light titanium firing pin and a heavy firing pin spring.) If I am drawing the gun for realz, the safety is coming off anyway; and if I am drawing it to put it away, part of the drill is good trigger discipline and making sure the pistol is safed when I handle it.

I've always attributed the issue to the fact that, as a left handed shooter, I require a 1911 with an ambidextrous safety. Thus, the "offside" safety, on the left side of the frame, is able to be affected by whatever I bump into during the day — such as the edge of my car seat when entering/exiting the vehicle, the arm of a chair, etc. In fact it has happened when I was carrying a USP Compact with an ambidextrous safety on it, in a Galco Summer Comfort, and MTAC, and a Desantis Speed Scabbard.

I would be curious to know how many right handed shooters who are having this same issue also have ambidextrous safeties on their guns? Someday, when I've won the government giveaway lottery and Obama sends me gozillions of your dollars ( ), I will buy myself a purely left handed, "mirror image" 1911. They are hard to find and pricey, but they're out there. I know somebody who has one.

Nope, I'm right handed and none of my pistols are ambi-safety. I understand that it's not an issue, except if you were to drop the 1911.....haven't thought about it. I carry an XD all the time, so the manual safety isn't of real issue to my thought process, either.

The Mtac disabling the safety seems to be related to the way I'm sitting in a stool when I work. It has never happened in the car, or out of the house. The Colt's haven't had any problem in the shop....on the STI....it must sit differently in the Mtac.


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