Point Shooting: A Viable Concept?

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matchstick
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Am I the only one that has laser sights on his guns for this very reason?
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nope.
and I got my chops busted for doing it, too.

you can keep yer eyes on people, things that way!
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matchstick wrote:Am I the only one that has laser sights on his guns for this very reason?
I'm not saying lasers don't have their place, but in these cases (emergency shooting), there's absolutely no way I would be seeing the laser much less refining my pistol direction based on it.
TXI wrote:This is where I disagree. You had NEVER trained in a situation where shots were coming inbound. Your instincts DID control you, as you had no training in such a situation. ;)
I agree. I think TX Rancher made a similar point as well.
TXI wrote:Only bad thing about these simulators is there is never an option to move to cover before or while engaging either target. Was BG two 30 feet or yards?
The simulated distance was 20-30 yards. I think adding cover and movement should be the next evolutions for this technology. On a previous scenario, the video had my partner almost directly behind the perp and I would have moved to get a clearer line of fire. As it was, it just forced really accurate shots.

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Having never been in an emergency situation with my firearm... I can't REALLY say I'd acquire my target faster than using the sights. But I'm speculating I would.

I can certainly do it much faster when I practice trying to get an accurate shot off as fast as possible from a resting position.
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matchstick wrote:Am I the only one that has laser sights on his guns for this very reason?
Laser sights certainly have their place but speed is not where they excell. They are SLOW...for me, anyway.

My experience with them has been at local club level IDPA mathces. My wife got me a Lasermax for my Glock 30 for Christmas last December. In an effort to test its durability, I would leave it in for my IDPA matches. I didn't intend to use it, but just left the unit installed.

I found that it would come on during a course of fire and a couple of the SO's asked me about it. At first I didn't even see it in the daytime matches...it was visible but I didn't see it. This is probably because I wasn't looking for it.

Later I DID look for it and found that in a quick draw and shoot scenerio, I had already fired a couple of rounds before I could even pick up the red dot. The act of manipulating the switch would have seemed to take forever in that situation.

I am sure acquisition of the red dot would have been faster in a low light situation but it will still be slow compared to the emergency point/shoot situations being discussed here.

I am sure laser sights can serve a useful purpose. I like the Lasermax, but it is not quick. Great for holding on target and I am sure there would be some deterrent effect, but that is for another discussion. By the way, it has proved to be durable, but it still comes on accidentally while shooting.
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matchstick wrote:Am I the only one that has laser sights on his guns for this very reason?
No, I have a set of Laser Grips on my night carry 1911.

Unlike CWOOD, I found that I was marginally faster and more accurate through the same stages with the laser on than with it off. Of course with the Laser Grips there is no real switch manipulation, when you grip the gun the laser is on.
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