Petition to Allow Open Carry in Texas

[tomtexan]

If open carry were to pass in this state, is it intended for licensed or unlicensed people, or both? It is my understanding that in some states open carry is not licensed.

[WinoVeritas]

I'm waiting for the "I'm sorry, you are correct" from him........

Good luck, I think you might be waiting for a while.

He went straight from his first incorrect statement to either calling the legislature idiots or implying that they were thinking about brandishing when they wrote other parts of the law, or maybe both. Either way, it doesn't prove him wrong in his mind.

You got that right.

I never said it was in the CHL-16, just stated it was against the law. If you don't think brandishing is against the law because it's not stated in the CHL-16 or that Texas does not have a law against brandishing, do what I said in my earlier post and see what happens while prancing around in front of a LEO.

[WinoVeritas]

Personally feel open carry is silly and juvenile. Incidental exposure of your legal CC isn't a crime in Texas - threatening and brandishing is. Making a best effort to conceal and having it accidentally exposed may get a LEO sicced on you, but if legally licensed to carry it's not going anywhere. In any case, don't really care one way ot the other about public open carry in Texas.

"Silly and juvenile"...that's an interesting way to put it, considering your signature line.

I consider winos signature line to be tantamount to character assassination of half the people on this forum so I give no credence whatsoever to anything he says.

Please give me a break on your feigned outrage of my sig. if i had a $0.05 for every derogatory comment or sigs made about liberals, lefties or democrats in this form I'd have more money than Donald Trump and Mitt Romney combined.

Putting a comment in a post is one thing; but adding your insult to your signature line puts it in every one of your posts. Perhaps you will reconsider.

Chas.

Mr. Cotton,

It's your site and I'll do what ever you ask or tell me to do. I highly suspect that had I not been honest in my intial post as to how i feel about OC and had I used Democrat rather than Republican in my sig, we would not be having this conversation.

[Jim Beaux]

Mr. Cotton,

It's your site and I'll do what ever you ask or tell me to do. I highly suspect that had I not been honest in my intial post as to how i feel about OC and had I used Democrat rather than Republican in my sig, we would not be having this conversation.

Nope, guess again. (Ever consider it may have something to do with your cheery disposition? Naw...)

[AEA]

I'm waiting for the "I'm sorry, you are correct" from him........

Good luck, I think you might be waiting for a while.

He went straight from his first incorrect statement to either calling the legislature idiots or implying that they were thinking about brandishing when they wrote other parts of the law, or maybe both. Either way, it doesn't prove him wrong in his mind.

You got that right.

I never said it was in the CHL-16, just stated it was against the law. If you don't think brandishing is against the law because it's not stated in the CHL-16 or that Texas does not have a law against brandishing, do what I said in my earlier post and see what happens while prancing around in front of a LEO.

DID you see me type anything about the CHL-16? No you didn't because I did not ever say/type anything about CHL-16. I said "there is no such thing as "brandishing" in Texas". And I stand by that.

There is NO LAW in Texas that addresses "brandishing" and the esteemed Mr. Cotton has already backed up that statement.

And who in their right mind would do anything like what you suggested as "brandishing" in front of a LEO? Just stupid rhetoric.

Now either shut up about it or post the Texas Law that says anything about "brandishing".

[flb_78]

If open carry were to pass in this state, is it intended for licensed or unlicensed people, or both? It is my understanding that in some states open carry is not licensed.

I do not know if open carry will ever get to Texas, but open carry has always been legal here in Kentucky.

Concealed carry came along about the same time as it did in Texas.

Unlicensed open carry seems to work fine here in Kentucky and yes, I've seen a handful of open carriers. I would assume that there are more conceal carriers than there are open carriers so that's a good sign of how many folks in Kentucky embrace their 2nd amendment rights.

[Charles L. Cotton]

Mr. Cotton,

It's your site and I'll do what ever you ask or tell me to do. I highly suspect that had I not been honest in my intial post as to how i feel about OC and had I used Democrat rather than Republican in my sig, we would not be having this conversation.

You don't know when to quit. My post just pointed out the difference between a comment in a signature line and a single post. I didn't tell you to amend your signature line, nor did I turn off that feature for you.

Perhaps you can leave out your not-so-veiled innuendos in future posts.

Chas.

[Charles L. Cotton]

Let's get back to the topic the OP wanted to discuss.

Chas.

[Heartland Patriot]

If open carry were to pass in this state, is it intended for licensed or unlicensed people, or both? It is my understanding that in some states open carry is not licensed.

I do not know if open carry will ever get to Texas, but open carry has always been legal here in Kentucky.

Concealed carry came along about the same time as it did in Texas.

Unlicensed open carry seems to work fine here in Kentucky and yes, I've seen a handful of open carriers. I would assume that there are more conceal carriers than there are open carriers so that's a good sign of how many folks in Kentucky embrace their 2nd amendment rights.

Do you find more open carry folks "out in the country" up there? I would think it would be that way, but that doesn't mean it is, so I'm curious to know your take on it.

[AEA]

Let's get back to the topic the OP wanted to discuss.

Chas.

Good idea Charles!
I personally could care less about a petition signed mostly by non-Texans (OP).

I am not interested in a Majority Consensus of Texas Residents either. I don't want the BG's to determine anything.

What I think is needed to put this to rest is let current CHL Holders decide. A poll managed by DPS with mailings/emails (whatever) to each and EVERY ACTIVE CHL HOLDER asking their option, yes or no. Then present that to the Legislature if the majority is yes.

The bill would have to be worked out to be licensed or unlicensed, etc.....and I am sure you could come up with that as you see fit. I would of course agree with whatever you presented with the idea to get it passed if that is what the majority decided.

[tomtexan]

What I think is needed to put this to rest is let current CHL Holders decide. A poll managed by DPS with mailings/emails (whatever) to each and EVERY ACTIVE CHL HOLDER asking their option, yes or no. Then present that to the Legislature if the majority is yes.

I like that idea AEA. It would even be interesting to do a poll here on the forum just to see how the majority of the members feel about it. No discussion or pros or cons, just a poll with a simple yes or no. Unless one has already been done of course.

[AEA]

What I think is needed to put this to rest is let current CHL Holders decide. A poll managed by DPS with mailings/emails (whatever) to each and EVERY ACTIVE CHL HOLDER asking their option, yes or no. Then present that to the Legislature if the majority is yes.

I like that idea AEA. It would even be interesting to do a poll here on the forum just to see how the majority of the members feel about it. No discussion or pros or cons, just a poll with a simple yes or no. Unless one has already been done of course.

Unfortunately, a poll here on the Forum would not be very accurate. There are many members on this Forum who are not CHL holders.

Additionally the Google/Yahoo Bots scan this Forum constantly and once a poll such as that is made public thru the search engines, it would be useless for accuracy. People will register and vote just to skew the poll. The majority of them would not even know what a gun looks like.

And no way to limit it to active Texas CHL holders.

[apostate]

What I think is needed to put this to rest is let current CHL Holders decide. A poll managed by DPS with mailings/emails (whatever) to each and EVERY ACTIVE CHL HOLDER asking their option, yes or no.

While we're at it, let's also take a poll of every active CHL holder if we should be able to carry cocked and locked.

[flb_78]

If open carry were to pass in this state, is it intended for licensed or unlicensed people, or both? It is my understanding that in some states open carry is not licensed.

I do not know if open carry will ever get to Texas, but open carry has always been legal here in Kentucky.

Concealed carry came along about the same time as it did in Texas.

Unlicensed open carry seems to work fine here in Kentucky and yes, I've seen a handful of open carriers. I would assume that there are more conceal carriers than there are open carriers so that's a good sign of how many folks in Kentucky embrace their 2nd amendment rights.

Do you find more open carry folks "out in the country" up there? I would think it would be that way, but that doesn't mean it is, so I'm curious to know your take on it.

Ive seen several folks carrying at the WalMart in Danville (pop 16,000) and I do not know any of them personally.

[lbuehler325]

An earlier post suggested that OC was juvenile and silly. Another said it was mostly impractical. And another said it was practical only in that it would allow comfortable carry during summer months without fear of printing. I guess I see each point of view... but I support OC on the premise that it is my 2nd Amendment right. Licensing and taxing for a right actually makes it not a right. And those are certainly infringements on my right to bear arms. Would I OC? Not if I could comfortably conceal. But I certainly don't want to force another citizen to conform to my personal opinion of how to carry their weapon. I only want my politicians to protect our rights.