Use Of Sight Shooting In Close Quarters Gunfights

[bdickens]

*Yawn*

Old news.

[03Lightningrocks]

Here's a link to a new article of mine that you may find of interest.

http://www.pointshooting.com/0ssmyth.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Feel free to copy/print/share/post it as you like.

Nice write up. Good work...

[boomerang]

Or you could grab some friends, facemasks and airsoft guns and see what actually works for you.

[.45mac.40]

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[Keith B]

There was a large discussion on this article before at this thread http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 92#p280392" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[>whiplash<]

Nice title on that link. The square range is a good starting point but I like FOF for evaluating techniques and tactics.

[jimlongley]

There was a large discussion on this article before at this thread http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 92#p280392" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I remember, there is some sort of fatal flaw in the design of the 1911, but only if you're foolish enough to use an impractical and uncomfortable shooting style.

[Excaliber]

I was going to start a new thread with the following, but this seems to be a good place for it.

I'm looking for pics - films - videos of Sight Shooting + other shooting methods being used effectively in real close quarters gunfights.

I have added a page to my site which will have links to them. Here's the URL: http//:www.pointshooting.com/sslinks.htm

You should be able to see hundreds to thousands of pics and videos of Sight Shooting, since Sight Shooting has been taught for 100+ years; and film and videos have been around for at least 50 of those years.

And as there are million and millions of handgun owners in the U.S. of A., there is a giant pool of possibilities to draw from, plus there are thousands of handgun trainers.

Even the NRA can participate as they offer handgun training via NRA certified handgun instructors, and as I understand the situation, Sight Shooting is the main shooting method taught.

Now realistically, I don't except much if any response as I have been involved in the area of close quarters self defense for 10+ years, I have yet to run across even one pic or video of Sight Shooting used effectively in a real close quarters gunfight. I have a patent for a handgun aiming aid that was patented back in 2000, so you can count me as more than just an interested bystander in regards to handgun self defense use.

My only aim :) is to determine/use the method/s that provides the best chance of aiming and shooting accurately at close quarters in a real life threat close quarters situation, becasue it is in CQ situations where the likely hood of your being shot and/or killed is the greatest.

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Per NYPD statistics, 75% of gunfights occur at less than 20 feet, and if you are going to be shot and killed, there is an 81% chance that it will be at less than 6 feet, and a 90% chance that it will be at less than 15 feet.

The only savings grace is that the mis rate in armed encounters is more than 80%. That means that for every five bullets fired at a target, four+ go somewhere else. So, unless you are having a very unlucky day, chances are you will not be in a gunfight, and if you are, you will survive.

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So, I would appreciate it if you or anyone could provide me with URL's to place on mynew page of Sight Shooting and/or other shooting methods, being used effectively in real close quarters gunfights.

I will check them out, and if they appear to be factual and fair as to their presentation, I will add them to the top portion of the page.

Rejects will be added at the bottom of the page if appropriate for viewing by the general public.

Please send them to ps (at) pointshooting.com

I also would appreciate being sent URL's to Pics - Videos - Films that show alternate shooting methods, such as FAS, QK, CAR, P&S, ..., that also show them to be effective in close quarters gunfight situations.

I will add them as links below those showing Sight Shooting being used effectively.

The method being used does not have to finely defined. For example, there are two pics on the new page of alternate methods being used.

In one, Jack Ruby is using P&S to shoot and kill Oswald. A close examination of the photos discloses the he truly is using P&S. In the second photo, it is obvious that a drugstore guard is using a modified two handed isso grip to dispatch a robber.

Would be nice to know that the shooting method you plan to use to defend your life and your loved ones, has actually been used in close quarters combat. Trust but verify makes sense.

Just saying something is so, doesn't make it so, now-a-days in the age of the electron.

A good friend and gun fight survivor in my former agency told us that he had carefully used the sights to engage an assailant who was largely concealed by foliage at a range of about 20 yards by placing a pattern of shots into the concealment. He scored 3 hits out of 5 rounds. He is also the son of one of NYPD's most legendary firearms instructors, so that might have something to do with it.

Rob Pincus, in his book "Combat Focus Shooting" has a functional perspective on this that I find personally applicable. He emphasizes firing as quickly as possible to score hits that will significantly degrade the ability of the assailant to continue to be a threat. He advocates doing so with whatever method of point shooting you may prefer when that works because it's faster, and with sighted fire when that method is needed to get the required hits. The distance where sights will be needed will vary with the skill of each individual. That makes lots of sense to me.

I have successfully proven to quite a few folks without special training that they can hit where they look at short ranges (0-4 yards) very quickly by focusing on a particular point (a pocket, button, belt buckle, etc.) on the target, punching the gun out so the slide is in the lower peripheral vision, and using the "muscle memory" they have acquired over the years to hit where they're looking. In training, I use a large, brightly colored adhesive dot on the target. It's not unusual for average folks to repeatedly hit the dot itself without using the sights. Depending on the level of basic skills, some folks are combat accurate well beyond 4 yards.

This method for dealing with threats at short ranges takes advantage of the natural predisposition to focus on the threat when under stress, and uses that mechanism to score hits in the very short time frames needed to survive. Working with what happens naturally works out lots better than trying to force oneself to use an unnatural system in a life threatening situation.