Mayor Daley Responds to Heller

[TxD]

Can you picture the spittle flying out of Daley's mouth?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... ory?page=2

"Chicago would be "absolutely open" to make the argument that the 2nd Amendment should not be incorporated to apply to Illinois and the city, he said, though he said he believes with the current makeup of the court, that argument ultimately would fail."
John McGinnis Law Professor, Northwestern University

[anygunanywhere]

What a maroon.

Anygunanywhere

[Liko81]

Wow. Um, how much power do the Mayor and Aldermen in Chicago have over the media? I'm just asking cause the video reports were almost as unbiased as the Iranian state-run news service. Something tells me I should drop to my knees and thank the good Lord that I live in Texas and not Illinois, for a lot of reasons.

[HankH]

Daley is a 3-letter donkey. If you look at the Illinois Carry Site, you will find where "Hizzonour" is supporting a 6-month amnesty for one of his political cronies. Here is the link:

http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.ph ... 99&hl=Mell

[rm9792]

"McGinnis said the court clearly stamped approval on the rights of citizens to own "ordinary guns that are in common use," including handguns."


Hmmm, would my Calico M950 be a ordinary handgun in common use.....probably not. Although I need a trench coat to conceal it. That phrase makes me wonder though.

[DParker]

I liked this part the best:

Chicago's top cop responds

"From a law enforcement perspective, this [the Supreme Court decision] will no doubt make a police officer's job more challenging than it already is," Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis said, "particularly since a firearm is used in 75 percent of all murders committed in the city of Chicago."

It would appear that Police Supt. Weis doesn't quite grasp the implication of that statistic with regard to the efficacy of Chicago's gun-control laws, especially given that Chicago and D.C. regularly trade the dubious honor of having the highest murder rate of any city in the U.S.

[BigDan]

Yeah, all of their imposed rules/laws/whatever seem to be doing absolutely nothing to fix their crime rate. But they're so bull-headed, they don't see it.

The only thing that is accomplished with gun control is that law-abiding citizens cannot protect themselves and criminals are emboldened and empowered by the fact that their victims can't defend themselves. The only people that stop carrying guns are those with no desire to commit crimes. Criminals don't care about the law anyway. Why would they care if they have a small felony weapons charge when they're committing Grand Theft, Grand Theft Auto, Petty Theft, Assault, Rape, or even Murder. A minor felony charge is nothing to them compared to what they can get otherwise.

[stevie_d_64]

I liked this part the best:

Chicago's top cop responds

"From a law enforcement perspective, this [the Supreme Court decision] will no doubt make a police officer's job more challenging than it already is," Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis said, "particularly since a firearm is used in 75 percent of all murders committed in the city of Chicago."

It would appear that Police Supt. Weis doesn't quite grasp the implication of that statistic with regard to the efficacy of Chicago's gun-control laws, especially given that Chicago and D.C. regularly trade the dubious honor of having the highest murder rate of any city in the U.S.

Very well stated!

[Pinkycatcher]

I liked this part the best:

Chicago's top cop responds

"From a law enforcement perspective, this [the Supreme Court decision] will no doubt make a police officer's job more challenging than it already is," Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis said, "particularly since a firearm is used in 75 percent of all murders committed in the city of Chicago."

It would appear that Police Supt. Weis doesn't quite grasp the implication of that statistic with regard to the efficacy of Chicago's gun-control laws, especially given that Chicago and D.C. regularly trade the dubious honor of having the highest murder rate of any city in the U.S.

[AEA]

"McGinnis said the court clearly stamped approval on the rights of citizens to own "ordinary guns that are in common use," including handguns."

Exactly......
And if the Mayor of DC even actually knows or not what a semi-automatic handgun is,......and if he goes forward with the ban on semi-auto handguns, DC will find themselves back in the courts VERY quickly.

[Rokyudai]

Boy he's just digging the hole deep! Let's threaten the subjects with higher taxes if they challenge the status quo.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,372568,00.html

"Daley was also troubled by the ruling.

He predicted more violence and higher taxes to pay for extra police if his city's gun restrictions are lost."

[Venus Pax]

Citizens of these municipalities still aren't out of the woods. Mayors, DAs, etc. will probably look at every little technicality in order to make an example of someone that dares to challenge their ideal.

[bpet]

This quote is from the same article that provided quotes from Mayor Daley...

"It's a big blow to those of us who believe in common sense gun laws," Gov. Rod Blagojevich said during an appearance at a West Side community agency to announce a summer jobs program. "And as a result, it's the wrong decision."

While I truly believe that everyone should take the time to understand issues and express their beliefs, I find it disturbing that people in leadership positions (Illinois Governor) can be so idiotic. The two quotes from the Governor highlight not only differences between his beliefs and mine, but also illustrate his lack of logic in expressing his feelings.

First example: "It's a big blow to those of us who believe in common sense gun laws,"
I find it difficult to understand how restricting gun ownership to select individuals including corrupt aldermen can be considered "common sense". I do agree with the Governor though; it must be a "big blow" to these elitists.

"Common sense" dictates that individuals have the right, if not the responsibility to own and know how to use a handgun to defend themselves and their families. Someone in Illinois' government understands this logic otherwise, they would not have insisted that aldermen have the authority to own a handgun. Someone understands that aldermen (or anyone else) can't depend on having the protection of the police 24/7. Perhaps it would have been better phrased if the Governor had said - Its a big blow to those of us who are afforded the opportunity of owning a handgun for our protection and being secure that most of our constituents don't....

Second example: "And as a result, it's the wrong decision."
It's not the "wrong" decision. It's the ONLY decision to anyone who has no agenda and can read and understand the written word.

[soccerguy59]

We need stats on crime rate with firearms pre and post ban for cities like DC, San Fran, Chicago, that will be the proof that the ban did not work. There are three options, up, down or status quo, I know my prediction, it will take a few years to gather the info.

I am so glad about this ruling and look forward to the next few years of egg on the face of the gun control advocates.

[HerbM]

We need stats on crime rate with firearms pre and post ban for cities like DC, San Fran, Chicago, that will be the proof that the ban did not work. There are three options, up, down or status quo, I know my prediction, it will take a few years to gather the info.

I am so glad about this ruling and look forward to the next few years of egg on the face of the gun control advocates.

No, the stats are already out there. The ban didn't help.

You don't need to prove that a RIGHT helps, nor even that infringement does harm. You only need for those who would infringe the right to be unable to prove that it not only helps but helps in a compelling way. They cannot.

No gun control law helps. Not one. Not even NICS/Brady background checks have ever been shown to do any good. And they aren't even enforced on criminals.

Not one.

It is very important that we remember this and be able to quote the following:

None of the CDC, the National Academy of Sciences, nor DoJ were able to find that ANY gun control reduces VIOLENT CRIME, MURDER, SUICIDE or ACCIDENTS in any significant manner.

And this:

Less than 100 criminals are prosecuted each year for Brady/NICS violations -- and the vast majority of these are because the authorities needed to arrest or prosecute a criminal but can't make the real charge stick, or needs a "predicate felony" for a conspiracy or RICO charge.

We need to remove EVERY unconstitutional (which includes worthless) gun control law -- and that is all of them.