What is the most jam-proof, most reliable semi-auto pistol ?
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What is the most jam-proof, most reliable semi-auto pistol ?
I know Glocks have the reputation of being incredably reliable, No
Matter what type, make or grain of ammo you use.
Many "individual pistols" of most makers would work flawlessly for that individual weapon, but not all the ones manufactured by that maker might necessarily have that "luck" or reputation for the breed (and make the same gun and/or model that is ammo sensitive and jams now and then for that certain buyers now and then).
Would you guys agree?
And if so, which other makes of pistols, if any, are known for being non-jamming, please?
I'm looking for as many 1st hand user responsence as I can get...to try to get a consensus..........And is depended on thousands of rounds of multiple ammo makes and grains having been pumped through to give an answer. (Not just users having tried only a couple hundred rounds of similar types)
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Matter what type, make or grain of ammo you use.
Many "individual pistols" of most makers would work flawlessly for that individual weapon, but not all the ones manufactured by that maker might necessarily have that "luck" or reputation for the breed (and make the same gun and/or model that is ammo sensitive and jams now and then for that certain buyers now and then).
Would you guys agree?
And if so, which other makes of pistols, if any, are known for being non-jamming, please?
I'm looking for as many 1st hand user responsence as I can get...to try to get a consensus..........And is depended on thousands of rounds of multiple ammo makes and grains having been pumped through to give an answer. (Not just users having tried only a couple hundred rounds of similar types)
thanks
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Re: What is the most jam-proof, most reliable semi-auto pist
I will agree that they are a candidate, but let me be the first to tell you that they fail just like everything else.daddySEAL wrote:I know Glocks have the reputation of being incredably reliable, No
Matter what type, make or grain of ammo you use.
They are my choice no matter what the event, but I practice malfunction drills as a part of every session.
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boredelmo,
I own a CZ75B that after a couple hundred break in firings has had not a single problem....but not enough rounds to truly tell(although I suspect it will always be problem free) And I've only tried the same type and grained ammo from 2 makers in it....not enough to tell.
But I'm mainly talking about easier concealable autoloaders. I've heard more than a few jam/ejection failure problems with their RAMI compact model. I personally would not put it in the same catagory as compact, subcompact Glocks. I would not feel comfortable betting my life on that model concealable CZ.
I own a CZ75B that after a couple hundred break in firings has had not a single problem....but not enough rounds to truly tell(although I suspect it will always be problem free) And I've only tried the same type and grained ammo from 2 makers in it....not enough to tell.
But I'm mainly talking about easier concealable autoloaders. I've heard more than a few jam/ejection failure problems with their RAMI compact model. I personally would not put it in the same catagory as compact, subcompact Glocks. I would not feel comfortable betting my life on that model concealable CZ.
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As someone above said they can all fail at some time ...
Especially if they are not cleaned and lubricated frequently and consistently ...
I prove that to myself occassionally by being lax ...
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Especially if they are not cleaned and lubricated frequently and consistently ...
I prove that to myself occassionally by being lax ...
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Re: What is the most jam-proof, most reliable semi-auto pist
I bought my Ruger P95 because of its reputation with reliability. Its never failed on me ever. However, my niece can make it fail almost every other time she fires it, if she wants by limp wristing it.jbirds1210 wrote:I will agree that they are a candidate, but let me be the first to tell you that they fail just like everything else.daddySEAL wrote:I know Glocks have the reputation of being incredably reliable, No
Matter what type, make or grain of ammo you use.
They are my choice no matter what the event, but I practice malfunction drills as a part of every session.
Any gun can fail. Some just do it more often than others.
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Liberty,
I'm not saying that even Glock hasn't made a One in maybe 300,000 imperfect pistol with problems.
But there are so tested daily and jamming complaints are so hard to find, that it qualifies(after I test mine with many ammo bullet weight and powder grain combinations by different ammo makers to know....I will think the odds are that it is jam-proof.
So that's the answer I'm hoping from "extensive users"(Many, Many rounds of various types, makers, grain weights and loads) .
What other autoloader qualifies definitely......so I may be a concensus, please.
thanks
I'm not saying that even Glock hasn't made a One in maybe 300,000 imperfect pistol with problems.
But there are so tested daily and jamming complaints are so hard to find, that it qualifies(after I test mine with many ammo bullet weight and powder grain combinations by different ammo makers to know....I will think the odds are that it is jam-proof.
So that's the answer I'm hoping from "extensive users"(Many, Many rounds of various types, makers, grain weights and loads) .
What other autoloader qualifies definitely......so I may be a concensus, please.
thanks
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Between my wife and I we have about ten semi-autos and shoot fairly often so most have been used quite a bit. Of the ten only four have been totally trouble free. They are the Baby Desert Eagle 9mm (aprox. 2000 rds), the S & W, M & P fullsized 40 caliber (aprox 3000 rds), the Sigma SW9VE (aprox. 3000 rds) and my fairly new 9mm CZ 75B (aprox. 800 rds).
I know a lot of you don't like the Sigma because of the trigger but mine has never had any kind of failure. Not enough rounds through any of them yet for a real test but this has been my experience so far.
I know a lot of you don't like the Sigma because of the trigger but mine has never had any kind of failure. Not enough rounds through any of them yet for a real test but this has been my experience so far.
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Anything that looks as ugly as a Glock has to be trustworthy.daddySEAL wrote:Liberty,
I'm not saying that even Glock hasn't made a One in maybe 300,000 imperfect pistol with problems.
But there are so tested daily and jamming complaints are so hard to find, that it qualifies(after I test mine with many ammo bullet weight and powder grain combinations by different ammo makers to know....I will think the odds are that it is jam-proof.
So that's the answer I'm hoping from "extensive users"(Many, Many rounds of various types, makers, grain weights and loads) .
What other autoloader qualifies definitely......so I may be a concensus, please.
thanks
I think the Ruger P series falls into that catagory. I've put 2000 rounds through it, and never a hiccup. My Beretta for me has been reliable but the older ones have a reputation for locking block problems after 10,000 rounds but this has supposedly been addressed. I trust my Beretta, but my Ruger even more so. Anything that looks as ugly as a Glock has to be trustworthy.
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angrybeavis,
No, not midsized versions of the 75B, I mean CZ's Really concealable CZ 2075 RAMI.(in the 6" length range.)
http://www.czusa.net/product_detail.php?id=48
No, not midsized versions of the 75B, I mean CZ's Really concealable CZ 2075 RAMI.(in the 6" length range.)
http://www.czusa.net/product_detail.php?id=48