What to do in a riot?

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Re: What to do in a riot?

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bblhd672 wrote:
WildBill wrote:Get out of Dodge, ASAP!
Unless you're driving a Dodge, then stay in it and get out of the area! :biggrinjester:
You stole my line! 7,000 lbs of diesel pickup sporting one of these should get me out of trouble.

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Re: What to do in a riot?

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Turban cowboy wrote:I had someone pose a question to me at school, which was intriguing to say the least.

Hypothetical situation:
If you are in your car or walking, and suddenly riots break out, and you or your car is attacked by multiple rioters, can the victim use lethal force? What would be so considered self defense? Are there any cases where this has occurred? Would it be justified?

In my opinion, my car becomes my best weapon. If I am able to drive, in any direction to escape, that's what I will do, if rioters get injured because of this, I'll take my chances in court. If I am walking and I am attacked by a group of people (Texas law defines a riot as a group of 7 or more) Then my gun is out as I extricate myself, if I have to use deadly force, again, I'll take my chances in court.

This has occurred, in LA after the Rodney King trial verdict, rioters attacked motorists, including a truck driver, pulled them from their vehicles and beat them. Stay in your car, it is your best weapon, no one is strong enough to stop a moving vehicle.JMHO
What he said.

Your 3500-4000 lb vehicle is a much more lethal weapon than your handgun. Put it in gear, tromp on the accelerator, and get away. When people are climbing on your car and trying to shatter your windows to get at you, they are no longer innocent pedestrians, and they lose any legal protections they had. The flip side of this is, AS SOON AS YOU ARE CLEAR, STOP running over human speed bumps and make a conscientious effort to not hit anyone unnecessarily as you continue to escape the situation.

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I lived in the Los Angeles area during the Rodney King riots, and it swirled around the building I worked in. We had armed National Guard patrols in the immediate area of our offices. Buildings were even burned in Pasadena, where I lived. The scope of the riot was HUGE.....like it filled the entire Los Angeles area sky with dense acrid smoke for days. I watched Reginald Denny getting dragged out of his truck and beat near to death, in real time, as I watched. That happened right near the main post office our company dealt with. The riot came within a couple of blocks of a dear friend's house. I was standing in his office when he phoned his wife at home, told her to get the AK out of the closet, and to not let anyone through that door until he got home.....kill them if necessary.

Never again. I will never allow myself to be caught in that kind of situation. I will run over anyone who tries to stop my vehicle and drag me out of it, and I won't even look back.
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Skip to :45 seconds to see what this guy did when the mob mentality tried to pull him out of his car (in the end didn't end so well for him but then again he wasn't armed).

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If your black lives truly matter, then you had better keep them up on the sidewalk where they belong.
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WildBill wrote:
Jusme wrote:
Turban cowboy wrote:I had someone pose a question to me at school, which was intriguing to say the least.

Hypothetical situation:
If you are in your car or walking, and suddenly riots break out, and you or your car is attacked by multiple rioters, can the victim use lethal force? What would be so considered self defense? Are there any cases where this has occurred? Would it be justified?

In my opinion, my car becomes my best weapon. If I am able to drive, in any direction to escape, that's what I will do, if rioters get injured because of this, I'll take my chances in court. If I am walking and I am attacked by a group of people (Texas law defines a riot as a group of 7 or more) Then my gun is out as I extricate myself, if I have to use deadly force, again, I'll take my chances in court.

This has occurred, in LA after the Rodney King trial verdict, rioters attacked motorists, including a truck driver, pulled them from their vehicles and beat them. Stay in your car, it is your best weapon, no one is strong enough to stop a moving vehicle.JMHO
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nightmare69 wrote:After you get away from the threat, call in a air strike.
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You never have enough ammo. Words to live by.

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Soap wrote:You never have enough ammo. Words to live by.
I keep a spare 100 round box for each pistol close at hand...just in case almost 6 thousand pounds of Maximus Prime doesn't do the trick. ;-)

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Soap wrote:You never have enough ammo. Words to live by.
Like when you're swimming? "rlol"
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TexasTornado wrote:I keep a spare 100 round box for each pistol close at hand...just in case almost 6 thousand pounds of Maximus Prime doesn't do the trick. ;-)
I can top that....... I keep three 33-round magazines nearby. :mrgreen:

Yeah, the 33-round mags add up to 1 less round than your box of 100, but they're already loaded into magazines which either my G19 or G17 can accept. I'll gladly sacrifice the one round difference for the speed of reloading, if things are SO bad that I need another 100 rounds. That said, the odds of running the standard Glock mags dry during social work are not nearly as high as with a 5-shot snubbie. :mrgreen:
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Re: What to do in a riot?

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https://news.fastcompany.com/usa-today- ... rs-4019799

Twitter suspends Instapundit for suggesting exactly what's being said here. He must be on the right track. :lol:
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The Annoyed Man wrote:
TexasTornado wrote:I keep a spare 100 round box for each pistol close at hand...just in case almost 6 thousand pounds of Maximus Prime doesn't do the trick. ;-)
I can top that....... I keep three 33-round magazines nearby. :mrgreen:

Yeah, the 33-round mags add up to 1 less round than your box of 100, but they're already loaded into magazines which either my G19 or G17 can accept. I'll gladly sacrifice the one round difference for the speed of reloading, if things are SO bad that I need another 100 rounds. That said, the odds of running the standard Glock mags dry during social work are not nearly as high as with a 5-shot snubbie. :mrgreen:
That is awesome. My p226 has 5 loaded 15 round mags + the box but I don't usually carry the 226...maybe I should start.
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Re: What to do in a riot?

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The Annoyed Man wrote:https://news.fastcompany.com/usa-today- ... rs-4019799

Twitter suspends Instapundit for suggesting exactly what's being said here. He must be on the right track. :lol:


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Re: What to do in a riot?

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Just as we were discussing this topic..this guy drives through the riot with his handgun out of the window, and everyone moved. Talk about savage.

Article title: "He was allowed to drive away alive': White motorist armed with a GUN is filmed driving slowly through crowd of protesters in Charlotte"

Http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... edarticles
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