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Trends on Encounters when pulled over. - Poll
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:20 pm
by Lucky45
Just curious about the usual disposition when pulled over and how we react with the LEO. Just answer the question according to the way your contact happened.
It may help others see how to act when pulled over.
Also, If you have been pulled over several times, then use the most recent experience to vote, because we are looking at the most current trend for CHLers.
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:56 pm
by stevie_d_64
You forgot one...
I handed over both licenses, insurance, registration, etc etc...
Was told to exit the vehicle, I was dissarmed, weapon, magazine unloaded, shift supervisor called for backup, vehicle searched, weapon ran to see if it was stolen, given a ticket anyway, told not to touch the weapon till "they" left...
Hey, it has happened...
For the record, I don't say a thing, hand them the required info, and "expect" a ticket...That way I am not dissapointed, or have a poor attitude...
But thats just me...
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:11 pm
by flintknapper
Both times I have been stopped (Once for speeding, once for no front license plate), I let the officer initiate the conversation.
I had licenses and insurance card at the window by the time they made contact. Both were courteous, neither kept the CHL more than 4-5 seconds and both let me go with verbal warnings.
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:34 pm
by Piney
Greetings--
The two times I have had an encounter in the past 8 yrs or so, I was silent, handed both DL and CHL, was told to drive safely and that's it-- no ticket, no warning, no questions. Luck I guess eh ?
Both of these were during the daytime, in a very public area/street.
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:38 pm
by phddan
One time I told the officer after I handed him the CHL that I was armed, and was promptly disarmed, then given a warning.
The next time I told the officer after I handed him the CHL that I was not armed, and was given a warning, again.
Now note that both times I was pulled over was for equipment violations, not moving violations.
Dan
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:39 pm
by Dougmyers5
You need a box for people that have not been pulled over
so we can vote and see the results of the poll also.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:45 am
by Lucky45
Dougmyers5 wrote: You need a box for people that have not been pulled over
so we can vote and see the results of the poll also.
I don't think that would add any relevance to the poll. Because we are trying to see the trends when a CHL is pulled over. If you are not pulled over then it does not show a trend because there is no interaction between the driver and LEO.
So far, I have noticed 2
trends.
1. That most people when stopped are silent about their posession of a firearm.
2. Most people that are silent get off with a warning.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:49 am
by Wildscar
Dougmyers5 wrote: You need a box for people that have not been pulled over
so we can vote and see the results of the poll also.
Just click the little link at the bottem that says
View Results.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:59 am
by jbirds1210
I have had a combination of many of the choices occur during a traffic stop (About five since 1996). I have voiced that I had a gun, been silent, and actually was pulled over once when I was not armed.
I have been disarmed once in Nacadoches. What bothered me about this stop was that he had a cadet and instructed him to disarm folks with a CHL.
All but one of the State Troopers in Houston was very pleasant and he just had a chip on his shoulder...nothing worth getting worked up over. We were friends by the end of the stop.
I really feel that in each situation that MY attitude controlled the flow of the incident. I said everything that needed to be said with a smile on my face and a thank you. I received a couple of tickets, but I earned them and can't place any blame on anyone other than myself.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:40 am
by stevie_d_64
jbirds1210 wrote:...but I earned them and can't place any blame on anyone other than myself.
Absolutely...Is all in how you accept the fact that you (yourself) are the one responsible, and without getting yourself into a negative attitude is how you make the "stop" safe for everyone...That officer does not know what they have till they make contact...
You certainly do not have to gush out apologies or small talk that is un-necessary...Expect the lumps you deserve, and accept it...It certainly hurts you in the pocket book, but if thats all it does to give you a friendly reminder to be mindful of the laws of the state...Everyone goes home breathing...
The fact that we are armed, in my opinion, should play no part in how you should, or should not, conduct yourself during a traffic stop...
I think for the most part we live in a state that doesn't have many problems in instances like this...
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:33 am
by Dan20703
The only time I was pulled over was for speeding (68MPH in a 60MPH zone) on the Grand Parkway west of Houston. DPS officer seemed indifferent to the whole thing. Asked if I had a gun with me (yes) and gave a warning. He thanked me for pulling over so quickly.
Very non-exciting. Just the way I like it.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:35 pm
by flintknapper
jbirds1210 wrote:
I have been disarmed once in Nacogdoches. What bothered me about this stop was that he had a cadet and instructed him to disarm folks with a CHL. .
Yikes,
I hope that wasn't when you came up for the edged weapons seminar.
I know quite a few of the LEO around here, so I'll ask if disarming CHL holders is something being promoted from on high....or just this guys preference.
Sorry that happened to you in my neck of the woods.
Flint.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:27 pm
by jbirds1210
flintknapper wrote:jbirds1210 wrote:
I have been disarmed once in Nacogdoches. What bothered me about this stop was that he had a cadet and instructed him to disarm folks with a CHL. .
Yikes,
I hope that wasn't when you came up for the edged weapons seminar.
I know quite a few of the LEO around here, so I'll ask if disarming CHL holders is something being promoted from on high....or just this guys preference.
Sorry that happened to you in my neck of the woods.
Flint.
This was back in July of 2005....my Wife had a very heavy foot that day. I was so busy laughing at the fact that she got a speeding ticket (Her one and only) that I really didn't let the disarm get under my skin. The guys were pleasant and obviously following a department policy.....though I don't agree with it.
She was not nearly as amused! LOL. I still like Nacadoches.......good folks over there. I just chalked it up to paying our part to keep Houston our of East Texas
Jason
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:12 pm
by srothstein
flintknapper wrote:I know quite a few of the LEO around here, so I'll ask if disarming CHL holders is something being promoted from on high....or just this guys preference.
A mixture of both. Some management types advise it, but I have not ever seen an agency with a policy to do it. Soem may have one though.
I have never done it yet.
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:29 am
by NcongruNt
I've only been pulled over once since I've had my CHL (or in the past 6 years, for that matter), and it was by a DPS lady officer a few blocks from the Capitol downtown. It was uneventful other than my expression of disbelief at her claim that I was going 50 in a 35 - there was NO way... she didn't have an actual clock on me, only that she went 50 to catch up to me, at which point she was closing distance (I may have been going upwards of 41 at best, according to my speedometer, which I check the accuracy of often), I turned on my interior red lights (which had the nice effect that maglights weren't being shined into the interior of my vehicle or face) and handed her my licenses and insurance. She simply asked "do you have your gun with you?" to which I replied "yes, ma'am" and that was all I heard about it. We briefly discussed why she pulled me over, and then she went and ran my plates/license while her partner stood around in front of my vehicle. She waved on what I recall as 4 or 5 APD cars during that few minutes who stopped to assist, then gave me a warning and ended with a "Thank you for the courtesy".
Overall, a good experience, which falls in line with every other experience I've had with DPS officers. The only difference is that this was the only DPS stop in my life (4 total) where I haven't received a ticket.