Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

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TXBO wrote:
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NotRPB wrote:House to Take Up Campus Carry Ahead of Key Deadline
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House to Take Up Campus Carry Ahead of Key Deadline

by Morgan Smith May 26, 2015
They better get to it early, to prevent any possible shenanigans on the House floor.
It's not eligible to be heard until 2:40pm. I suppose they could suspend the rules but that seems unlikely to me.
I was referring to SB11, this is the last day it can be heard in the House.
But yeah.....HB910 not until at least 2:40pm today. I'm sure SB11 will take up a lot of time.
My apologies. There's so much going on, I'm going to have to pay better attention.
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SB 11 out !!!

Just before that, said if not PASSED ENGROSSED before 12 midnight, it's gone... reduced it to writing

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NotRPB wrote:SB 11 out !!!

Just before that, said if not PASSED ENGROSSED before 12 midnight, it's gone... reduced it to writing
It passed before midnight. Apparently a nuclear option was used to shut down the amendments and get a vote. There were 3 amendments added to it.
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Ok then, so my free faxzero this morning is allocated to Straus, asking for supportive conferees and to strip out the private university amendment. Will call Dan Patrick's comment line on my way to work... assuming 290 isn't flooded.
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J.R.@A&M wrote:Ok then, so my free faxzero this morning is allocated to Straus, asking for supportive conferees and to strip out the private university amendment. Will call Dan Patrick's comment line on my way to work... assuming 290 isn't flooded.
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In case you may not have noticed, one of the amendments changed the effective date to 9/1/2016. Here's a link to the amendment http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 011H21.PDF

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txpilot wrote:In case you may not have noticed, one of the amendments changed the effective date to 9/1/2016. Here's a link to the amendment http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 011H21.PDF
I'm assuming this is so universities can determine which areas they would like to be off limits.
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txpilot wrote:In case you may not have noticed, one of the amendments changed the effective date to 9/1/2016. Here's a link to the amendment http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 011H21.PDF
If it does make it all the way through and becomes law, that effective date stinks! In addition to the ability of schools to make some buildings off-limits, it gives them an entire year to do it. I saw the date change earlier, but didn't notice the year. I thought they moved it up from the 1.1.16 date. :grumble
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Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

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C-dub wrote:
txpilot wrote:In case you may not have noticed, one of the amendments changed the effective date to 9/1/2016. Here's a link to the amendment http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 011H21.PDF
If it does make it all the way through and becomes law, that effective date stinks! In addition to the ability of schools to make some buildings off-limits, it gives them an entire year to do it. I saw the date change earlier, but didn't notice the year. I thought they moved it up from the 1.1.16 date. :grumble
Yes, it stinks. But I would take a more limited (i.e., Amendment 1) version of campus carry on 9/1/16 than having nothing until 2017 at which time we can go through all this again. The House version is still progress, and at this point I am for progress.

In fact, if the Senate has enough votes to concur (even with private university push-back because of Amendment 1), I would rather they call the democrat's bluff and vote to concur. Let the democrats live with the legacy of Amendment 1. If some future session or special session wants to deal with Amendment 1, so be it. The greater value is in shattering this arbitrary restriction on the "sanctity" of some/many/most classroom buildings. Do that and we take the wind out of their sails.
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I agree -- concur and be done with it. Fix it in 17. I'll take three baby steps over a giant leap on this one.
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So then my obligatory daily free Faxzero has been allocated to Sen. Birdwell:

Senator Birdwell, I remember your eloquent and principled stand during the Senate debate on SB 11 in favor of property rights and letting private universities opt out.

Because of the democrats' amendment (No. 6), that total opt out provision is no longer there. In the interests of time, I urge you to accept the House version and lead your Senate colleagues to vote to concur with it.

The House version still represents significant progress. It would finally allow campus carry in university buildings -- quite probably a lot of university buildings. It would shatter all the specious arguments that the opposition has been making about campus carry leading to violence, etc.

I say call the democrats' bluff. It is their amendment -- let them live with the legacy of it. In the meantime, do an end run around Straus and simply concur with the House version. Future sessions can fix the current weaknesses, especially after everybody gets a chance to see that (partial) campus carry turns out to be what we all expect it to be.
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occurring now motion by Birdwell to not concur SB11 (re respecting private property)


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‏@MarkW_KVUE 41s41 seconds ago

.@SenatorBirdwell requesting conf cmte on #campuscarry #SB11 #txlege

West says he'll vote with Ellis against campuscarry in general

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Plenty of organized money against this.. ads against are running on adsense. They point to http://act.everytown.org/call/TX-Campus ... TX_May2015" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Concession on campus guns, open carry agreement reached
4:38 p.m. Thursday, May 28, 2015 | Filed in: News

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So it sounds like the House is done for today. Says they might meet tomorrow at 10:00am. Even if conferees get appointed tomorrow, committee meets tomorrow, and distributes its report tomorrow, is there enough time to get to a vote? Saturday at midnight is the deadline to distribute committee reports, with Sunday at midnight being the deadline for votes, no? What are the chances?

Edit --->>>This question basically answered over in another thread...
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