Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

[Bladed]

Can a POO be called in the House on something the Senate did with regards to SB11? Or can a POO only be called on whatever procedural actions (i.e. how it was considered in committee) have been taken so far on SB11 in the House?

If the former, I hope the Senate is going over everything to double-check there are no procedural errors with SB11 (and fixes any issues found before Tuesday).

If there is a technical error with the bill (e.g., referring to a statute by the wrong section number) or if it violates a constitutional rule (e.g., the single-subject rule), the Speaker could sustain a point of order. I'm sure both sides are currently going over it with a fine-toothed comb.

[safety1]

This is good, but it must pass clean or it will have to go back to the senate, where it will die via filibuster or otherwise.

Texas legislators can't filibuster a concurrence vote. Please don't spread misinformation.

It has been stated on this forum more than once by those with much more knowledge than my own that
a few in the Senate have stated they would.
If I'm wrong I stand corrected. I'm not spreading misinformation with any intent.

[CJD]

This is good, but it must pass clean or it will have to go back to the senate, where it will die via filibuster or otherwise.

Texas legislators can't filibuster a concurrence vote. Please don't spread misinformation.

It has been stated on this forum more than once by those with much more knowledge than my own that
a few in the Senate have stated they would.
If I'm wrong I stand corrected. I'm not spreading misinformation with any intent.

They threatened to filibuster HB910 if the House refuses to concur and it is sent to a conference committee, after which it must be again voted on in each chamber.

[safety1]

This is good, but it must pass clean or it will have to go back to the senate, where it will die via filibuster or otherwise.

Texas legislators can't filibuster a concurrence vote. Please don't spread misinformation.

It has been stated on this forum more than once by those with much more knowledge than my own that
a few in the Senate have stated they would.
If I'm wrong I stand corrected. I'm not spreading misinformation with any intent.

They threatened to filibuster HB910 if the House refuses to concur and it is sent to a conference committee, after which it must be again voted on in each chamber.

I stand corrected, put a notch in your forum police belt. It was stated that if both chambers had to vote after a bill returning from conference committee they would.
I'm glad you caught it.

[Thomas Hagemeier]

Either the House can fail to vote to concur, or not even have a concurrence vote at all.

[safety1]

Either the House can fail to vote to concur, or not even have a concurrence vote at all.

we was talking about SB11 IF it had to go back to the senate for a concur vote.

[Charles L. Cotton]

This is good, but it must pass clean or it will have to go back to the senate, where it will die via filibuster or otherwise.

Texas legislators can't filibuster a concurrence vote. Please don't spread misinformation.

It has been stated on this forum more than once by those with much more knowledge than my own that
a few in the Senate have stated they would.
If I'm wrong I stand corrected. I'm not spreading misinformation with any intent.

They threatened to filibuster HB910 if the House refuses to concur and it is sent to a conference committee, after which it must be again voted on in each chamber.

I stand corrected, put a notch in your forum police belt. It was stated that if both chambers had to vote after a bill returning from conference committee they would.
I'm glad you caught it.

A concurrence vote and a vote on a conference committee report are not the same thing. A concurrence vote cannot be subject to filibuster, but a vote on a conference committee report can. It's easy to get the two confused.

Chas.

[safety1]

This is good, but it must pass clean or it will have to go back to the senate, where it will die via filibuster or otherwise.

Texas legislators can't filibuster a concurrence vote. Please don't spread misinformation.

It has been stated on this forum more than once by those with much more knowledge than my own that
a few in the Senate have stated they would.
If I'm wrong I stand corrected. I'm not spreading misinformation with any intent.

They threatened to filibuster HB910 if the House refuses to concur and it is sent to a conference committee, after which it must be again voted on in each chamber.

I stand corrected, put a notch in your forum police belt. It was stated that if both chambers had to vote after a bill returning from conference committee they would.
I'm glad you caught it.

A concurrence vote and a vote on a conference committee report are not the same thing. A concurrence vote cannot be subject to filibuster, but a vote on a conference committee report can. It's easy to get the two confused.

Chas.

Yes sir, I was incorrect in what I had said.

[J.R.@A&M]

Well, this certainly looks like progress.

Since Fletcher is my representative, I guess I'll allocate my free Faxzero fax to Speaker Straus.

[Vol Texan]

I called and wrote my local representative to politely let them know how much I support campus carry.

Here is the response I received in my email box today. Please note the bold text below. He expects it to come up tomorrow:

Dear (Vol Texan),

Thank you for contacting my office regarding campus carry in the State of Texas.

As a strong supporter of the second amendment, I support campus carry and look forward to Senate Bill 11 when it reaches the House Floor this session on May 26, 2015. It is imperative for responsible students who meet certain requirements to defend themselves from possible harm.

Again, thank you for contacting my office. If you have any other questions, comments, or concerns, please contact me at Jim.Murphy@house.state.tx.us.

Sincerely,

Jim Murphy

[Deltaboy]

Keep the Press on.

[v7a]

McRaven: Campus carry could hurt faculty recruiting, increase costs

Campus carry could hurt Texas universities' ability to recruit and retain quality faculty, and could drive up tuition, University of Texas System Chancellor William McRaven said in a letter sent to state representatives a day before the legislation hits the House floor for debate.

"The presence of handguns on Texas campuses, where we would be one of fewer than 10 states to allow this conduct, may well cause faculty to be discouraged from relocating from other states," wrote McRaven, best known for leading the raid that killed Osama bin Laden during his tenure as the head of U.S. Special Operations Command. "The intuitive answer is that the presence of concealed weapons will make us less competitive."

McRaven wrote the letter, dated April 20, in response to questions from Rep. Chris Turner, D-Grand Prairie. The letter was distributed House-wide Monday morning, the day before the chamber is scheduled to debate Senate Bill 11, which would allow licensed gun owners to carry concealed handguns into college buildings and dormitories. Currently, concealed handgun licensees only are allowed to bring their guns into the open, outdoor areas of campuses.

In his letter, McRaven also reiterated concerns about the cost of implementing the legislation, which the Chronicle reported could cost the state's public universities more than $47 million over six years to update security systems, build gun storage facilities and bolster campus police units.

As for McRaven's track record in telling the truth, he is the guy who together with President Obama lied about how the Bin Laden raid went down.

[safety1]

McRaven: Campus carry could hurt faculty recruiting, increase costs

Campus carry could hurt Texas universities' ability to recruit and retain quality faculty, and could drive up tuition, University of Texas System Chancellor William McRaven said in a letter sent to state representatives a day before the legislation hits the House floor for debate.

"The presence of handguns on Texas campuses, where we would be one of fewer than 10 states to allow this conduct, may well cause faculty to be discouraged from relocating from other states," wrote McRaven, best known for leading the raid that killed Osama bin Laden during his tenure as the head of U.S. Special Operations Command. "The intuitive answer is that the presence of concealed weapons will make us less competitive."

McRaven wrote the letter, dated April 20, in response to questions from Rep. Chris Turner, D-Grand Prairie. The letter was distributed House-wide Monday morning, the day before the chamber is scheduled to debate Senate Bill 11, which would allow licensed gun owners to carry concealed handguns into college buildings and dormitories. Currently, concealed handgun licensees only are allowed to bring their guns into the open, outdoor areas of campuses.

In his letter, McRaven also reiterated concerns about the cost of implementing the legislation, which the Chronicle reported could cost the state's public universities more than $47 million over six years to update security systems, build gun storage facilities and bolster campus police units.

So our students safety is less important than the oh' might dollar. Go figure. I'm very disappointed in McRaven on this issue.

[jmra]

So, we need to bolster campus security because we are allowing law abiding citizens more access to their second amendment rights? Maybe we wouldn't be having this conversation if they had focused their priorities toward protecting law abiding citizens instead of trying to criminalize them.

[viking1000]

Yeah kinda sorta makes you wonder with the price of what they call higher education, so at graduation they can go out and get a bartenders job, or drive a horse and buggy in New Orleans ...