HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

[SA-TX]

'Prince of POO' forces delay in open carry, _______ bills

Rep. Jonathan Stickland, R-Bedford, said he will attempt to force a vote on constitutional carry on Friday. If the House refuses, he said he has 162 amendments he can offer to make the bill less restrictive. Open carry opponents are expected to submit a number of their own amendments, including one to bar open carry by those who have lost their Texas concealed handgun licenses.

I hope that's a typo, but 6 and 2 are not that close on the keyboard...

I don't know what bill Stickland would be "forcing a vote on" ? His HB 195 is still waiting to go to committee.
And if he really has that many amendments to his bill, that sounds like a re-write is in order.

He'll probably offer it as an amendment to HB910. He stood on the steps of the Capitol and proudly proclaimed that he will try to amend it to every bill dealing with guns.

Chas.

Isn't that what Sen. Huffines did and it was voted down soundly?

I'm torn between the bird in the hand vs. the two in the bush. I understand strategically that licensed OC is the path of least resistance and seems poised to pass & be signed into law. It is an improvement over current law so I support it. On the other hand, I'm glad that Rep. Stickland and Sen. Huffines are asking the question "Why should the state be involved in this exercise of a constitutional right at all?" If only more lawmakers at all levels asked such questions!

As much of a tough spot as it might put those in who support licensed OC but not unlicensed or constitutional carry, we have a governor who seems to have said he'll sign any of the above. Taking him up on that offer is awfully tempting.

I don't know what I would do as a member but as a Texan and CHLer, the only way I can lose would be for some poison pill to be attached to the bill and not even get licensed OC. If something restoring even more liberty makes it into law, so much the better.

SA-TX

The problem is that unlicensed OC could be that poison pill that kills this bill, but that is not what many are worried about. What most folks are worried about is the fact that he reportedly has 162 amendments ready to be offered for this bill and simply voting each and everyone of them down along with killing all the anti-gun amendments will delay this bill to the point that we could see it die. Time is not on our side here, and the extremist positions from both ends are seemingly joining forces to delay this bill to death as well as any other pro-gun measures.

With a legislator pulling stunts like that, who needs enemies when he seems to want to mess things up all by himself? If he wrecks what amounts to a pretty good chance to advance some serious pro-firearms legislation, with Republicans in control of the whole kit and kaboodle, then I hope when his term is up, he finds himself looking for a new line of work.

Let's see what happens before we start wishing pro-2A legislators adios.

[SA-TX]

Open carry and (to a lesser degree) campus carry are on the fast track for passage this session. And because of the antics of OCT and OCTC, these are likely to be the bills that pass to the exclusion of almost every other gun rights bill. So when the constitutional carry crowd gets riled up about licensed oc and starts putting up road blocks, they're not just hurting the bill that's being discussed. They are actually causing us to lose ground. So much effort has been expended getting licensed oc and campus carry through the process that better bills (HB 308 - removing most of the off limits places for CHLs, and SB 273 - imposing a penalty for gov't entities posting unenforceable 30.06 signage) are stalled. Once again, the all or nothing option results in nothing.

Understood. I hope and trust Nothing isn't what we'll get. Barry Goldwater did say "extremism in defense of liberty is no vice". On the other hand Ronald Reagan is reported to have said that he'd take 80% of what he wanted everytime instead of getting nothing. I think the challenge is knowing how to balance the two.

SA-TX

[v7a]

The quiet before the s̶t̶o̶r̶m̶ bill passage?

[mr1337]

The quiet before the s̶t̶o̶r̶m̶ bill passage?

I think we'll see come 10:30AM tomorrow morning.

Anyone "in the know" have an indication if they are planning to suspend the rules to allow a 3rd reading tomorrow as well (as happened in the Senate for SB17)?

[Bladed]

The quiet before the s̶t̶o̶r̶m̶ bill passage?

I think we'll see come 10:30AM tomorrow morning.

Anyone "in the know" have an indication if they are planning to suspend the rules to allow a 3rd reading tomorrow as well (as happened in the Senate for SB17)?

The Senate didn't suspend the rules to allow the third reading on the same day as the second. The third reading happened the following day.

Suspending the rules to allow the third reading on the same day as the second requires a four-fifths majority (25 votes in the Senate; 120 votes in the House), so that almost never happens with a bill this controversial.

Also, that's much more common in the Senate. If I recall correctly, the House typically only suspends the constitutional three-day rule when there is a time crunch.

[Charles L. Cotton]

Open carry and (to a lesser degree) campus carry are on the fast track for passage this session. And because of the antics of OCT and OCTC, these are likely to be the bills that pass to the exclusion of almost every other gun rights bill. So when the constitutional carry crowd gets riled up about licensed oc and starts putting up road blocks, they're not just hurting the bill that's being discussed. They are actually causing us to lose ground. So much effort has been expended getting licensed oc and campus carry through the process that better bills (HB 308 - removing most of the off limits places for CHLs, and SB 273 - imposing a penalty for gov't entities posting unenforceable 30.06 signage) are stalled. Once again, the all or nothing option results in nothing.

Understood. I hope and trust Nothing isn't what we'll get. Barry Goldwater did say "extremism in defense of liberty is no vice". On the other hand Ronald Reagan is reported to have said that he'd take 80% of what he wanted everytime instead of getting nothing. I think the challenge is knowing how to balance the two.

SA-TX

Goldwater lost while Reagan served two terms and is considered by many as the best President we've ever had in the White House. "D amn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" type statements make great sound bites, but poor legislative strategy.

Chas.

[K5GU]

HB910 now has 80 Coauthors. Cook and Schubert signed on 4-16.

[joe817]

At 9:52 the Speaker just announced the House is about to go on the Calendar.

[K5GU]

House floor reading 2nd readings from the calendar.

[joe817]

They're following the Calendar order. 910 is 1 away! Keeping my fingers crossed!

[TVGuy]

They're following the Calendar order. 910 is 1 away! Keeping my fingers crossed!

I think HB 40 is going to take some time.

[joe817]

They're following the Calendar order. 910 is 1 away! Keeping my fingers crossed!

I think HB 40 is going to take some time.

[TXBO]

Does anyone happen to have a link to watch this live. My thanks in advance.

[mojo84]

Does anyone happen to have a link to watch this live. My thanks in advance.

http://tlchouse.granicus.com/MediaPlaye ... nt_id=1362" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

or

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and click on the senate or house link to the live streams over on the right side of the page.

[jerry_r60]

They're following the Calendar order. 910 is 1 away! Keeping my fingers crossed!

I think HB 40 is going to take some time.

Are there any house rules that control discussion time by the person who has the floor? I could see something like this occur on 910 as well. Where someone makes there point and just keeps reiterating it over and over, asking the same questions over and over. Is there a parliamentary mechanism to close that off?