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HIgh Tech South American gangs breaking into expensive homes

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:15 pm
by philip964
https://abc7chicago.com/house-burglary- ... /14152807/

Well trained, all in black, professional gangs from South America, using wifi jammers to defeat alarm systems.

40 homes in Detroit area have been hit in addition to other parts of the country. In and out very quickly.

Re: HIgh Tech South American gangs breaking into expensive homes

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:23 pm
by Paladin
Interesting.

Having an alarm and a alarm sign is always good, but physical security layers are important as well.

I use Medeco locks, but it looks like those guys when straight through the safety glass. Obviously all glass, safety glass doors are an invitation to burglary.

Re: HIgh Tech South American gangs breaking into expensive homes

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:00 am
by bbhack
They could likely disable your internet without wifi jamming. When crime is a business and not a smash and grab to get a fix, we will see many weaknesses in our approaches to personal security. Fortunately, not being rich is a good start to not being a target.

Re: HIgh Tech South American gangs breaking into expensive homes

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:06 pm
by Crash
How about a couple of Rottweilers or Doberman Pinschers?

Crash

Re: HIgh Tech South American gangs breaking into expensive homes

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:29 pm
by philip964
Crash wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:06 pm How about a couple of Rottweilers or Doberman Pinschers?

Crash
My daughter took care of a Rottweiler and a Shitz tzu while a couple was on vacation.

After the introduction and instructions, she asked for a key. They said you won't need a key. We do not lock our doors.

They explained that locking the doors was totally unnecessary.

Their postman delivered their mail to the neighbor across the street.

The Rottweiler enjoyed his back being scratched. He had an annoying habit of heading straight for your junk, then at the last moment ducking and squeezing between you legs for the whole length of his body. You of course complied with his every desire, without question. Happy to be his buddy.

Apparently Belgian Malinois is the new "in" dog.

Re: HIgh Tech South American gangs breaking into expensive homes

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:26 pm
by Iunnrais
That mirrors what the HPD officer told us years ago after someone broke into our house. Essentially, don't bother with the alarm as the police response would only be in time to write the report for insurance. Save the monitoring money and get an alarm sign and a decent sized dog. The dog's presence and bark will invite most to target an easier place. The small percentage who ignore the dog....those are the ones that won't be deterred by anything anyway.

Re: HIgh Tech South American gangs breaking into expensive homes

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:56 pm
by srothstein
There have been some very interesting studies on what will deter a criminal. Visible signs of an alarm (especially the alarm junction box, but just a sign works) are high on the list, as are dogs. The funny thing is that what actually works best is something we all try to avoid - the nosy neighbor. One study I read showed that the odds of being burglarized drop significantly when the burglars see a neighbor watching them, and even more if the neighbor makes some sign they might intervene, like coming out and yelling.

Re: HIgh Tech South American gangs breaking into expensive homes

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:52 pm
by Crash
The reason I suggested two dogs is because I read an article written by a former professional burglar. He stated that one dog wouldn't stop him from burglarizing a home, but two would.

Crash

Re: HIgh Tech South American gangs breaking into expensive homes

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:28 pm
by Paladin
srothstein wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:56 pm There have been some very interesting studies on what will deter a criminal. Visible signs of an alarm (especially the alarm junction box, but just a sign works) are high on the list, as are dogs. The funny thing is that what actually works best is something we all try to avoid - the nosy neighbor. One study I read showed that the odds of being burglarized drop significantly when the burglars see a neighbor watching them, and even more if the neighbor makes some sign they might intervene, like coming out and yelling.
:cheers2:

A guy in the insurance business said in his career he never once had a burglary claim by a homeowner with BOTH a large dog and an alarm. Layered security works.

Re: HIgh Tech South American gangs breaking into expensive homes

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:26 pm
by powerboatr
another option is to make you house look like you dont have anything worth stealing

but dogs and great locks and windows up high are a great start.

thanks open borders .

Re: HIgh Tech South American gangs breaking into expensive homes

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:41 am
by Rafe
philip964 wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:29 pm Apparently Belgian Malinois is the new "in" dog.
I think I'll put up a new sign on my house: "Beware the two, genetically engineered, highly trained, Belgian Malinois guard dogs."


Re: HIgh Tech South American gangs breaking into expensive homes

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:46 pm
by G.A. Heath
I remember my mother answering the door with a single action revolver and our GSD. The guy at the door begged her not to let the dog go. When the police picked him up he swore my mother didn't have a gun, just a big scary dog that wanted to get him. All the dog did was growl at the guy. Dogs are a great deterrent, the least aggressive GSD I have is a coward or a extremely friendly depending on how recently he took his seizure meds (about an hour after taking them he becomes a coward for an hour or two) yet people are terrified of them even though the only danger from him is a viscous cuddle session.