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Jim Beaux wrote:This hurts.



Dylann Roof Reportedly Almost Didn't Go Through With Church Shooting Because 'Everyone Was So Nice To Him'


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/1 ... mg00000067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The comments are ...... Scary
Indeed, the comments are scary. The feeling there seems to be so based on gut reaction that only the trolls are able to call up actual facts to support a reasoned debate. History is not just being re-written, but re-invented. Fox News has become Satan himself, and anyone who has ever held a view expressed there is a minor demon to be eradicated. "Foaming at the mouth" is an appropriate description of many of those making comments. I do believe the Progressive Ministry of Dis-Information has been far more effective than I could ever be comfortable with.
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Re: Church shooting Charleston SC

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Middle Age Russ wrote:
Jim Beaux wrote:This hurts.



Dylann Roof Reportedly Almost Didn't Go Through With Church Shooting Because 'Everyone Was So Nice To Him'


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/1 ... mg00000067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The comments are ...... Scary
Indeed, the comments are scary. The feeling there seems to be so based on gut reaction that only the trolls are able to call up actual facts to support a reasoned debate. History is not just being re-written, but re-invented. Fox News has become Satan himself, and anyone who has ever held a view expressed there is a minor demon to be eradicated. "Foaming at the mouth" is an appropriate description of many of those making comments. I do believe the Progressive Ministry of Dis-Information has been far more effective than I could ever be comfortable with.
I stopped reading comments at sites like HuffPo and Daily KOS awhile back.....but if you read the comments at sites like those regularly it becomes very clear that many want to see their political opposition rounded up and caged and/or killed. Before the current POTUS I used to read articles and comments on these sites regularly but don't recall seeing the same volume of open hatred and blood lust. Under the current administration many on the left seem to have been emboldened and now feel free to express their innermost desires.

I stopped paying attention because this bunch largely resides in an echo chamber and is comically divorced from reality. None of them seem to grasp the concept that the people who'd have to do the rounding up and killing are more like their enemies than themselves and unlikely to do their bidding. The predominant characteristic of those on the left is having lived a sheltered life that insulates them from all unpleasant realities. They don't have military experience and don't work in occupations where reality cannot be denied so they have lived their entire lives in a cocoon of privilege and an ideological echo chamber. They are too far removed from reality to realize that when the bell tolls, it will also toll for "thee."
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Middle Age Russ wrote:
Jim Beaux wrote:This hurts.



Dylann Roof Reportedly Almost Didn't Go Through With Church Shooting Because 'Everyone Was So Nice To Him'


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/1 ... mg00000067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The comments are ...... Scary
Indeed, the comments are scary. The feeling there seems to be so based on gut reaction that only the trolls are able to call up actual facts to support a reasoned debate. History is not just being re-written, but re-invented. Fox News has become Satan himself, and anyone who has ever held a view expressed there is a minor demon to be eradicated. "Foaming at the mouth" is an appropriate description of many of those making comments. I do believe the Progressive Ministry of Dis-Information has been far more effective than I could ever be comfortable with.
I find those comments quite normal and routine for left wing sites. You can put your head in the sand and ignore it. Or you can see it for what it is, and reject it.
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VMI77 wrote: I stopped reading comments at sites like HuffPo and Daily KOS awhile back.....but if you read the comments at sites like those regularly it becomes very clear that many want to see their political opposition rounded up and caged and/or killed. Before the current POTUS I used to read articles and comments on these sites regularly but don't recall seeing the same volume of open hatred and blood lust. Under the current administration many on the left seem to have been emboldened and now feel free to express their innermost desires.
Exactly. I saw a twitter user say that she wanted readers to ask Anonymous to go after Charles Cotton. When I responded that asking that opposition web sites be hacked, her response was that she was "joking", but didn't want the site hacked, she wanted him doxed (exposing personal information).

The left definitely wants to silence opposition.
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EHooper02 wrote:I really only have one question:

If what he said wasn't wrong, why has it been deleted and you have been left to defend his statement?

Understand your board is probably under a lot of fire right now, and I'm certainly not trying to add to that. Just something to think about, I feel.
I don't know why Mr. Cotton took the post down but I'm sure it's to do with people taking the post the wrong way and twisting his words around. I know he feels as bad as everyone else about this ordeal and that it even happened. Too me he was, in a moment of hurt, stating that if someone in the church could of carried their concealed weapon there is / was a good chance they could of stopped it and their wouldn't have been the death's there was. Now certain groups and people took that statement and have twisted it around to fit their agenda. As I stated I know he feels as bad as everyone this happened, he also feels bad cause in his eyes and many of our own eyes this could of been stopped or not as bad had someone been able to carry their self defense weapon. If anything this just further proves unlawful people do not recognize nor care about laws or law abiding people.
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http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/06/big-list- ... d-killers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here is a list of mass murders and the killers drug use.

A second point:


I responded to a question by a poster on a progun control website, who asked about where the poster could suggest gun bans reduced murders.

I suggested politely that Mexico was a place where gun were banned.

My post was removed and I was permanently banned from the website.

I hope the new members to the website will understand that Mr Cotton's website enjoys all posts that are polite and obey the other fair rules of the site.

I have found from my time on this site that Mr. Cotton is an intelligent honorable man. If for an reason someone found his comments in any way objectionable, I have no doubt that it was unintentioned.

The world would be a much finer place, if there were only more people like Mr. Cotton.

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I ran across a Politico blog which Facebook listed as "other posts" with an NRA article about the Steam Punk exhibit at the National Firearms Museum. They quoted both Mr Cotton and Shoot don't talk. I didn't see anything objectionable or particularly insensitive in the quotes. They were, in my opinion, valid observations, lamenting the unnecessary loss of life.
The real anger seems to be sparked by the world not conforming to their unrealistic expectations. They seem honestly baffled that there are people who don't subscribe to their philosophy that the way to deal with a crazed, homicidal maniac is to disarm your self and hope he changes his mind.
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I am stunned by the graciousness of the families of the victims in Charleston. They are better Christians than I am. No way could I forgive this cretin just two days after he murdered a family member. Maybe some day, but not now. It would be a long time before I could forgive him.
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philip964 wrote:http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/06/big-list- ... d-killers/

Here is a list of mass murders and the killers drug use.

A second point:


I responded to a question by a poster on a progun control website, who asked about where the poster could suggest gun bans reduced murders.

I suggested politely that Mexico was a place where gun were banned.

My post was removed and I was permanently banned from the website.

I hope the new members to the website will understand that Mr Cotton's website enjoys all posts that are polite and obey the other fair rules of the site.

I have found from my time on this site that Mr. Cotton is an intelligent honorable man. If for an reason someone found his comments in any way objectionable, I have no doubt that it was unintentioned.

The world would be a much finer place, if there were only more people like Mr. Cotton.
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"Simple question: Is it possible some of the victims would be alive if they had been armed, as Chas Cotton merely suggests?"

It was deleted
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Re: Church shooting Charleston SC

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EHooper02 wrote:I really only have one question:

If what he said wasn't wrong, why has it been deleted and you have been left to defend his statement?

Understand your board is probably under a lot of fire right now, and I'm certainly not trying to add to that. Just something to think about, I feel.
Only Charles can answer your question, but I can tell you this. In the current climate in America, you don't have to say anything wrong to be assaulted on the internet. All you have to do is say something that people disagree with. What Charles said was that the Pastor opposed carry in churches, which is a fact, and some of the dead could be alive if carry had been allowed in the church, which is also a fact.

What is not a fact is that Charles blamed the victims for their deaths. That is a blatant misrepresentation of what he said. It's not surprising. It happens on both sides of the political aisle by people who don't care about truth but only care about promoting their own agendas.
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Re: Church shooting Charleston SC

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Jim Beaux wrote:
philip964 wrote:http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/06/big-list- ... d-killers/

Here is a list of mass murders and the killers drug use.

A second point:


I responded to a question by a poster on a progun control website, who asked about where the poster could suggest gun bans reduced murders.

I suggested politely that Mexico was a place where gun were banned.

My post was removed and I was permanently banned from the website.

I hope the new members to the website will understand that Mr Cotton's website enjoys all posts that are polite and obey the other fair rules of the site.

I have found from my time on this site that Mr. Cotton is an intelligent honorable man. If for an reason someone found his comments in any way objectionable, I have no doubt that it was unintentioned.

The world would be a much finer place, if there were only more people like Mr. Cotton.
I tweeting a response to mad mothers:

"Simple question: Is it possible some of the victims would be alive if they had been armed, as Chas Cotton merely suggests?"

It was deleted
It's not surprising at all to be honest. They will remove and ban anyone that rebuttals their line of thinking or wishes. Then will come out later and state, "look everyone agrees with us. There is nothing but positive post and people wanting the same thing." That's one good thing about America we don't all have to agree or have same thought process.
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baldeagle wrote:I am stunned by the graciousness of the families of the victims in Charleston. They are better Christians than I am. No way could I forgive this cretin just two days after he murdered a family member. Maybe some day, but not now. It would be a long time before I could forgive him.
Inspirational.

I would not be capable of such forgiveness.
Certainly has caused me much reflection today.
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Well the forum has made it to the New York Times

Hello new members and howdy to Shannon who must refresh this website about a thousand times a day. :tiphat:
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CoffeeNut wrote:Well the forum has made it to the New York Times

Hello new members and howdy to Shannon who must refresh this website about a thousand times a day. :tiphat:
In NY venacular. .....

"Oy Vey!"

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RoyGBiv wrote:
CoffeeNut wrote:Well the forum has made it to the New York Times

Hello new members and howdy to Shannon who must refresh this website about a thousand times a day. :tiphat:
In NY venacular. .....

"Oy Vey!"
Sheesh
abc News (AP Associated Press... Charles talked to them, but Article Title is Biased)
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/nra- ... g-31900385" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Cotton told the AP ...
Where were these News agencies when the MomsDemand Everytown Bloomberg Funded Groups were exposed lying/ misrepresenting things under oath during Legislative hearings a couple months ago?
Is this Shannon's "Payback" by stating something Charles never said?
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